skilled4reel

I got my first truck . I have a few questions for you guys. first ill describe the truck. Its an 85 4x4 std cab toyota, Stock 22r 5speed, stock front and rearend, stock transfer case,5.29 gears, 35x14.5 thornbirds,rancho shocks and 2 steering dampners. I was told it had a 7" sus. lift and 3" body lift. I bought the truck to take mudding and thru some trails/woods and hills. Im in michigan so im sure i wont be doing any rock climbing, though i would love to try it!

1st question-how can i get it to turn? lol

2nd question- would longer travel suspension help or hurt?

3rd-question- softer or stiffer leave springs? 63" chevys?

4th question- whats the differnce in raisin the rear with blocks or springs?

5th question- should i put 4runner rearend in it with spacers in front?

6th question- could u please be nice to the newbie???

algranger

1-what do you mean get it to turn? more detail would be good.
2-longer travel will ALWAYS help but the way thats set up you should have plenty unless its got blocks in which case springs would be very beneficial
3-depends on what you want, if your gonna tow at all stiffer would be good. stiffer doesnt always mean less travel the 63" chevys for instance are stiff but flex very well (or so ive heard) i hear thats a great setup and if you have blocks in the rear id definitely recomend it
4-check this thread for disadvantages of blockshttp://www.yotatech.com/f123/lift-bl...ld-fun-150206/
as for a spring lift it will give you better flex, less axle wrap, good looks, and are much stronger
5-theres lots of kinds of 4runner rear ends. i assume your thinking about the 3rd gen with coil overs which would flex better and look badass but imo (in my opinion) its not worth all the work unless your into hardcore crawlin id just stick with a good set of springs like marlin crawlers from marlincrawer.com
hope this helps

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skilled4reel

by turning i meant it is a b!#%@ to turn it has no power steering

85toy

for the steering part do you still have the stock steering or has it got hysteer? if you dont know what this is step away from the truck lol jk
just take some close up pics of the front and rear axles and we can show you from there. i would reccomend that you lose the blocks and get the chevy springs. since you arnt doing any rock clawling then you dont need a wider stance it would help with that much lift if you are daily driving it just for safety, but if your just trail riding it or mudding then it doesnt matter.

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1984 toyota pickup extended cab 4x4

couple of mods

87lt1rx7

That thing is too tall for crawling, but your main intention is mud than I guess it will fit your needs. Look into doing 63" rears with a small lift block and rancho 44044's in the front. You can get a full power steering setup for about $150 to $200 and hy-steer for $300. 35" tires are kind of hard to pull off on stock gearing. that would require 5.29s

eighty5yota

he said he has 5.29's and thats DEF push-pull

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85 single cab longBOB 18'' gone, 4 inch peice-o-crap rancho lift, roger brown 3 inch body lift, 33x12.5x15 MT/R, flat black (apparently non responsive to radar guns =] ) 16 speaker sound system with 10 boston 6x9's, 2 phoenix gold tweeters,2 4x6 infinity's and 2 kicker 12's
2400w.
PERFORMANCE MODS:
heavy right foot, quick left foot

skilled4reel

I know i need a different gearbox and powersteering pump/res. It doesnt even have a power steering pump Can you use a hysteer swap with the hydro assist kit?

grant526

If your just muddin' and trail riding. I would leave the suspension the way it is and go to hysteer with power steering. Your life will be much simpler and you won't break your steering while your wheeling. The stock push-pull is kind of weak and is known to have issues with that large of tires. I'm looking to convert my 85 to crossover/hysteer as one of the next mods.

BTW That truck is HUGE!!!!!! lol Personally, I wouldn't build anything that tall. But it should be good for mud! But I wouldn't consider trail that is off camber!

Good Luck with it!! Keep us posted

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'85 Standard Cab
4.5" HD SuperLift
Custom Winch bumper
33x12.50 Mud Rovers
Lincoln Locked in the rear

DD's: '87 XJ and '91 Suzuki DR650s

Wheel Responsibly, Don't screw it up for others...

grant526

If you go hysteer, you shouldn't need the hydro-assist. And you shouldn't have any issue adding it later if you so choose. I would assume go with the hysteer 1st then the hydro if you need.

The best advise I've been given was build it one step at a time. That way you can feel all the mods and see the differences they make. Then you know more about it and can appreciate them more. Plus, you have a better idea what broke if something goes wrong.

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'85 Standard Cab
4.5" HD SuperLift
Custom Winch bumper
33x12.50 Mud Rovers
Lincoln Locked in the rear

DD's: '87 XJ and '91 Suzuki DR650s

Wheel Responsibly, Don't screw it up for others...

skilled4reel

Thanks ill try the hysteer first