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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Looking for input: 3rd Gen Expeditionary Truck

Things for the Truck:

- OBA
- York air compressor (possibly from a mid-80s Volvo)
- Engine On/Off switch
- Dash Switch
- Pressure switch, probably set for Off-150, On-120
- Regulator for 90 PSI for Air tools/Future ARB
- Quick Discos- front/rear bumper areas
- As large a tank as I can find a spot for

- Some way to mount 2 spares, preferably avoiding a roof mount and under-truck mount (crazy, I know)

- GM Delco 200 amp Alt

- Light!
- 2 Lights @ top of the hood/in front of the A-Pillar -> Wide Angle
- 2 Lights @ front bumper -> Pencil Beam
- 1-2 Reverse mount wide-angle Lights

- Warn 9.5xp Winch
- Synth Line

- Hi-Lift jack
- Winching adapter
- Slider Adapter

- Sliders -> Stubbs Deluxe

- Skid plates on the Transfer Case and up front

- Bumpers
- Front: TJM T-17
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- Front: Tube Bumper
- Must have: Winch Mount, Shackle Hangers, Light Mounts

- Rear: BruceTS-style
or
- Rear: Tube Bumper (If it can look good on a 3rd Gen 4Runner)
- Must have: Class IV hitch (Class III would be ok too, I guess), Shackle Hangers

- Water-proofing
- Snorkel, doors (as much as possible), engine, electronics, Extended Diff Breathers, Electric Fan w/ Dash Switch

- Largest tires I can fit W/out lifting (susp. or body)
- I'm willing to bash/cut to get tires to fit, but I'd like to keep a somewhat stock outer

appearance
- Tires will probably be Revos, MTRs, or Geolanders

- Suspension upgrades
- Better components with little to no lift
- Focus on Expeditionary runs (fireroads, desert, etc)

- Driveline
- Driveline Brake at the Transfer Case
- ARB Air Locker for the 7.5" up front

- Jerry Cans
- 1-2 for gas
- 1 for H2O

Please give any advice or opinions you have. This is me making my 4runner an expeditionary truck. If I think of anything else I want to, I'll add to this post.

If I wanted to invest in some $$$ I'd go for a long travel up front, but I'd rather buy an FZJ8- with the lockers first. I think this covers most of it. All input is welcome.

EDIT: This doesn't include all the logistics of the mods. For instance, I plan on strencthening the frame rails ends for the TJM so that I can use the winch safely. Still, feel free to chime in with advice. I'm sure I've forgotten things.

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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by drbeau
Focus on Expeditionary runs (fireroads, desert, etc)
for that type of terrain you don't need half of that stuff.
If you have a rear locker and spend the $30 on that portable air compressor from kragen(currently in use by 3+ yotatech members and working fine) you will be fine. extra fuel is also a good idea, but not completely neccessary.
when I still had my stock dunlops(very bald) and no lift I ran the same trails I run now(coyote canyon,carvacre,anza borrego,truckhaven) The only thing the lift/armor allowed me to do is the optional stuff that is somewhat harder. And put more dents in my truck than I ever did before.

Looking back, I wish I had used the money spent on lift/bumper/armor/lights/tires to buy a dedicated trail rig. With what I spent, and what you are proposing$$$ this could easily be done. I would have gladly used my 3rd gen for towing purposes and not have to worry about getting home in one piece.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 10:03 PM
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Honestly, this isn't all going on the truck right away. After going to DV i'm pretty aware of how much this truck can do stock. I didn't even push it to any sort of limit (didn't even engage the locker). I'm not a rock crawler, but if it need to to get to the top of a mountain, I will. This truck is just an ideal. Thanks for teh opinions. Keep it comin'.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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Water, Fuel, Tire, High Lift.
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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Bigger alternator...

Good skidplates...
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Old Apr 24, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the Alt....edits post
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:13 AM
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Small hijack, whose 4runner is that Gapguy? or got a link?

Eric
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gapguy
Water, Fuel, Tire, High Lift.
I hope he has done some re-enforcing of his frame rails!! That sukka has to be heavy!!

As for the rig in question...
Is this going to be used for going out by your self or something? I could see getting all that stuff if you were planning on going out by your self. Because when there isn't someone to pull you out, your going to want all the help you can get. I would suggest doing a body lift. You said you want to keep it stock, but doing a body lift allows you to not only clear bigger tires, but also lift some of the dangling parts up and out of the way. Having a flat bottom helps big time when hitting rocks anyway. You could add a fuel cell in the back where the spare usually goes also. This takes it out of the middle of the truck and centers it making better weight distribution. Another thing you might want to invest in is rock lights. The come in handy not only when going over obstacles but also when trying to work on the rig at night.

There are a couple things... I'll keep brainstorming also...
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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That Runner is sweet. Those Jaos mudflaps are so sick looking...but it sucks how expensive they are.

I like Austin's idea about the body lift lifting some stuff out of the way. A full belly skid would be nice.

GPS?

Bars/tubing running from the bullbar up over the fenders to the sliders, give the body some protection.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by gapguy


Water, Fuel, Tire, High Lift.
and dont forget the $400 JAOS mudflaps...
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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This thread has the bars to protect the body that I was talking about...
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...4&page=1&pp=25
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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I saw that thread, randomness, and I like the idea. It kinda takes away from the stock aspect, but that's a very acceptable change.

Nice ideas, Austin. I don't want to go wheeling alone, but I've always had a loner mindset when it comes to life in general (more of an "I need to be able to take care of myself"). I'm not saying I want to be alone, it's just the way I initially view things.

I've thought about rock lights, but I never saw much of a purpose if you weren't rock crawling. On the other hand, they would come in mighty handy for creaping around. Also, I think a good selling point is their usefulness when having to wrench in the dark. As for the fuel cell, that seems like a great idea, but there are some problems. I would need a fuel cell that holds at least what the stock one does (preferably more) and would not kill my departure angle. I know this is easier to do with a body lift, but I have never been to keen on body lifts. I'm one of "those people", if you know what I mean.

Also, don't just limit this to my selections. This can become a general expeditionary gear thread if it shifts that way. Keep it coming.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ehinfinity
Small hijack, whose 4runner is that Gapguy? or got a link?

Eric

www.4x4labs.com They're local to me. That truck is now SAS'd on 35's WITHOUT the JAOS crap.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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My 1st gen is set up for expedition use, I can easily do 1-2 weeks with only gas stops:

http://www.4crawler.com/4Runner.shtml

Can do about 450 miles on- or off-road between gas stops, alternator works as a welder, handy when you break something many miles from the nearest town. Hot water shower is a big asset on long trips as well.

Some typical trips:

2000 miles:
http://c-67-170-224-64.hsd1.ca.comca...NevOre08-2003/

5000 miles:
http://c-67-170-224-64.hsd1.ca.comca.../MN_Trip_2004/

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