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Old Oct 17, 2023 | 03:57 PM
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Unknown connector during tilt steering swap

First time poster. My apologies if I'm posting improperly. I've searched through the forums for this, but haven't been able to figure it out. I recently worked my way through a tilt steering swap from a 1995 automatic 4runner into a 1991 manual pickup. I had to swap my old lock cylinder into the new column after drilling out the donor cylinder since I didn't have the key. Of course there is an ignition lockout module on the cylinder that I've left attached, but is not being used in any way. Intermittent wipers work perfectly. I also now have useless cruise control buttons. Haha

The one connector I'm unsure of is a gray 3 pronged connector from the swapped column that has no place to attach to the truck wiring with purple, brown, and gray wires coming out of it. Any ideas?



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Old Oct 17, 2023 | 06:48 PM
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It's possible it may be an extra connector for the rear wiper assembly which the truck obviously doesn't have, but the wire colors don't seem to match up in the 95 4runner FSM. If that is the connector, I think it's labeled C17a, but I could be totally off.

If there is anyone else planning on doing this swap, the key lock cylinder attachment to the steering column is indeed different. The place where it mounts is a larger diameter on the 4runner tilt column. I initially just tried swapping the entire lock assembly using extraction sockets to remove the rounded off bolt heads attaching it to the column (pretty easy with the extraction sockets). After discovering this wouldn't work, I just swapped out the cylinder from my original non-tilt column into the tilt column. The associated wiring and connector also had to be swapped over as the connectors are different.

Everything swaps over quite nicely. You have to make sure that the piece at the back of the inside of the cylinder is rotated in the proper orientation for the steering lock to properly function. It can be installed 180 degrees offset, but the improperly functioning lock plunger should be obvious. I would imaging it could be a dangerous scenario if it's not in properly. I think I swapped that piece from the original to the new column as well as they are slightly different.

The column shroud is obviously different to accommodate the tilt function, but the lower dash trim is also different to properly cover the tilt shroud. You can still install it without swapping the lower dash trim, but you'll have to leave a metal support on the left side off as it interferes with the non-tilt dash...not a big deal.

When I pulled the column, I made sure to get everything from the firewall through the steering wheel so that it bolts up properly. The splined joint closest to the firewall should be installed after hooking everything else up...very difficult to do it otherwise. Make use of that hanger shelf up top to make your life easier. The intermittent wiper assembly works flawlessly without any other modifications necessary. It's just plug and play. I still need to modify the wiring for the ignition cylinder light...haven't game planned that just yet.

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Old Oct 17, 2023 | 07:16 PM
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Cruise control plug??

I swapped in a tilt column from a 91 into my 91 so I had no extra plugs, but the intermittent wipers and tilt were the coolest upgrades ever, going on 11 years since I swapped it and it still makes me smile when I use my wipers
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Old Oct 17, 2023 | 07:52 PM
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Yeah...maybe cruise control. I guess if everything is working as it should, I should just not worry about it. I'll dig into the FSM again to try to see what the cruise control situation looks like. I recall it being a resistor ladder, but for some reason remember the wire colors and connector being different. You're most likely right though.

Agree completely btw...I was wrestling with keeping it as it came versus throwing in the tilt column. I'm so glad I did. I also hooked up the front mirror light as well by running wires to the front left A-pillar. There is not much space to work above the liner there, but it definitely provides a lot more light at night. I love little projects like this, so this truck is going to keep me busy for years to come (hopefully).

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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 04:01 AM
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Oh it will keep ya busy I think the busiest part of owning any of these older trucks is hunting down parts when they break, I try to buy two of whatever breaks but some of the cost involved doesn’t allow it
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 04:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Discombobulated
Cruise control plug??

I swapped in a tilt column from a 91 into my 91 so I had no extra plugs, but the intermittent wipers and tilt were the coolest upgrades ever, going on 11 years since I swapped it and it still makes me smile when I use my wipers
My 86 SR5 X-cab came with tilt and intermittent wipers. Both are great.
Always had vehicle with intermittent wipers. Rarely use regular or high speed wipers.
Funny thing about the tilt steering. I bought my truck new in 86 and 1st vehicle with tilt steering- love it. The next day when I came to take it home after dealer prep, the steering wheel was oriented like a semi-truck. More flat than vertical. I told my buddy I can't drive this truck like that and don't remember it being that way. He said "Didn't you say it has tilt steering?" All was fixed. Been loving it ever since. And the door vent/wing windows too.

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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 05:04 AM
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Exactly. I call it Truck Therapy. Good thing they are so easy to work on and most parts are inexpensive. It's a truck, so yes keep them running. Just replaced the shift lever bushings for the 2nd time. Like new now, but the little rubber weather boot that fits onto the transmission (not the tunnel) to keep dirt and water out was torn badly on the OEM boot. Found a new OEM in package for a 86 Celica that fits for only $15. Some times cross parting works.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 12:10 PM
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Truck therapy... Exactly. I'm nowhere nearly as mechanically inclined as most of you on these forums, but these toyotas seem like a great way to get into it. Mine is a 91 4wd xcab.

Adding the mirror / map light up front made a huge difference for me as well. Highly recommend it if you haven't. You just have to be super careful to not use anything that wil punch through the vinyl liner. I used a fiberglass fish tape to get it through, but even the tip of that was a bit thick to run without issue. Removing the flip down visor gives an extra small access point to help line things up.

Well done with the celica boot. A lot of these parts are the same across different toyotas of that era too. I had an 86 supra years ago. I remember for the manual variant, they used the same w56 truck transmission.

I pulled the column with all the attached wiring, wiper assembly, and steering wheel from the scrap yard. I wanna say they gave me the whole thing for 60 bucks... Or maybe 80? Under a bill for sure.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Yotalaka
Truck therapy... Exactly. I'm nowhere nearly as mechanically inclined as most of you on these forums, but these toyotas seem like a great way to get into it. Mine is a 91 4wd xcab.

Adding the mirror / map light up front made a huge difference for me as well. Highly recommend it if you haven't. You just have to be super careful to not use anything that wil punch through the vinyl liner. I used a fiberglass fish tape to get it through, but even the tip of that was a bit thick to run without issue. Removing the flip down visor gives an extra small access point to help line things up.

Well done with the celica boot. A lot of these parts are the same across different toyotas of that era too. I had an 86 supra years ago. I remember for the manual variant, they used the same w56 truck transmission.

I pulled the column with all the attached wiring, wiper assembly, and steering wheel from the scrap yard. I wanna say they gave me the whole thing for 60 bucks... Or maybe 80? Under a bill for sure.
Salvage yard did me good on a used OEM Toyota PS box. Tried three different brands of aftermarket ones and all three would not accept the steering column rag joint. Had the same number of splines, but a tad bigger diameter input shaft. For the last one the parts manger personally delivered it to see it not fit. Guess didn't believe me. It did not fit and I showed him how the OEM slipped on with ease. Went salvage yard and got a one from a yard in WA State shipped to SE VA for $97. The aftermarket ones were at the time $180 to $225. It fit like a glove and now 8 years later it is still working fine.

With the boot I had to apply silicone paste to the inside top surfaces of the boot and hole center to help it slip down the shift lever and over the larger diameter lower half section. Slipped right past non problem.

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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 01:11 PM
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Nice! I'll keep that in mind if I ever need a boot myself. Salvage yard is like a little treasure hunt for me. You get to wrench on stuff with no adverse consequences too. I'm careful to leave everything I don't want in good condition for the next guy or gal of course. 👍🏼

Need a blower resistor on my next trip. First inline resistor wire is broken. Not a huge deal since it's only the lowest setting that doesn't work, but it's on the "shopping list"
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 01:43 PM
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I buy those new online as my local yards doesn't stock many Toyota trucks. Easier for home delivery.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 02:24 PM
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Any site you recommend? I think the cheapest I saw was amayama.com for about 40 after long shipping. I may just bite on that if I don't hit up the yard soon.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 03:48 PM
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Any site you recommend? I think the cheapest I saw was amayama.com for about 40 after long shipping. I may just bite on that if I don't hit up the yard soon.
Parts Geeks is good. Use RockAuto as well, but have to compare shipped prices theses days. I'd pull the resistor and plug to see what you currently have to ensure you get the right one if ordering online. There are various models.

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Old Oct 20, 2023 | 03:15 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions. Just follow up on my original question as well, it is indeed an accessory plug for the rear wiper assembly in 4runners that pickups would not have. Maybe I'll find some way to repurpose the switch. Happy to hear suggestions... Haha

Thanks again guys. Attached pic

is the C connector from the 95 runner FSM.
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