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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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Advice on buying a 2nd Gen (89) 4runner

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After 3 yrs im finally getting back into another Toyota!! It's an 89 that im probably going to buy this weekend. I havent seen it yet, but I do plan on taking it somewhere to get it checked out by a mechanic before i purchase it.

My old one was a 93 with the 3.0 which i am very familiar, but this will be the first time ive even seen the earlier body style up close. I dont see many around my part of town.

Could someone enlighten me on anything that would help me point out something that isnt right?

Any secrets or obvious places to check?

Any advice?


It is a 3.0 5spd with 160,xxx miles and very clean.


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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 01:30 PM
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if its a 89 it will be the same body style as the 2nd Gen pickup with the removable hard top. And ifs. On these the big rust places you need to watch are the tailgate. You can't by a aftermarket replacement. And the frame on the inside butting up to the gas tank.
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Old Feb 17, 2015 | 01:39 PM
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Please find a mechanic that works on Toyota`s for the most.

When was the timing belt done ??

How long ago were the head gaskets done??

Is this a local vehicle or did it come down from the great rust belt.

Figure on spending another $1000.00 plus just catching up on Maintenance.

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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 06:02 AM
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Thanks for the advice!
Ill be sure to ask about the head gaskets and the timing belt and look for the rust.

Ive never completely respected the head gasket issues because my last 3.0 went 350,xxx miles on the stock head gasket and still ran very well

It has not been exposed to the snow, but has been exposed to salt air.

The only thing that doesnt work on it is the rear window, but the top has never been taken off before. Any ideas if this will be an easy fix?


Any other advice?!


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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 04:13 PM
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Usually the rear window not working is the switch or relay box located behind the drivers seat in the side panel. In my 88 runner build link below on the first page a have quite a bit of info on the tail gate.
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 04:46 PM
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Be sure to check the frame and under the spare tire for rust.


My non op rear window turned out to be a dirty console switch. It was a free fix so try that first.

An '89 will be a first gen 4Runner. The best IMO!

Here's my '89:


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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 06:44 PM
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I agree with terry the 1st Gen is the best!
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 04:32 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. The seller didnt call me back in two days so im pretty restless right now.
I told him i have the cash and he said i would be the first to see it, but the idea of losing this is stressing me out. Im supposed to buy it this Saturday. Wish me luck!!
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Don't get too excited for it, that is how you end up buying something you are pissed about a week later.
Yeah the V6's only had HG issues for a few years but it tainted the whole name of the 3.0. I have also known a few people with 300,000 miles on their 3.0's.
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Old Feb 19, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RoBatt
Thanks for the info guys. The seller didnt call me back in two days so im pretty restless right now.
I told him i have the cash and he said i would be the first to see it, but the idea of losing this is stressing me out. Im supposed to buy it this Saturday. Wish me luck!!


Get your money together but be willing to walk away. If you are emotionally invested in the truck you could make a huge mistake. I looked at an '88 X Cab a couple of months ago that had a great body and interior but I poked MY FINGER through a frame rail. We didn't bother to drive it or even start the engine.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 05:37 AM
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Schnayke and Nervo - Great advice! I definitely have my guard up, i guess you can say that im excited on the idea of there being NO red flags when i inspect it. So far he has sold me on the idea that there is nothing wrong with it, but if i see anything that taints the image that i have in my head of what i think its going to be like, its going to be a much tougher sale for him haha.

Nervo - I have subscribed to your 89 4runner build!

So what we have so far:

Ask about the timing belt and head gasket replacements

Check for rust
Tailgate, Frame rail against the gas tank, rear fenders, under spare tire.

Can it be rusting underneath the paint, but you just cant see it? With a careful eye, can rust be spotted?

Any other advice?
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 07:31 AM
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Here is a picture

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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 07:36 AM
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Looks pretty clean.

Only thing is I bet that Grill guard wobbles like crazy and you will especially notice it at night with the lights on..
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dropzone
Looks pretty clean.

Only thing is I bet that Grill guard wobbles like crazy and you will especially notice it at night with the lights on..
I believe he said he has taken the grill guard off. I would probably sell it anyways
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 07:40 AM
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check the rear fenders looks like he has fender flares on the back but not the front? It might be hiding some rust.
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Old Feb 20, 2015 | 07:42 AM
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and whats the asking price?
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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 08:48 AM
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Well I met with the guy and purchased it!! Still need to get it checked out by a mechanic, but im very happy with it. Rides steady and straight on the interstate. Interior is almost perfect.

It has an oil leak coming from the rear main seal so he dropped the price $500

It sits about an inch and a half lower in the front and i HAVE to get it leveled. I can't stand it sagging in the front, plus it rubs bad.

I have a lot of plans for it and things i want to change, but thats the fun part

It feels so good to be driving a Toyota again!

Here are some pictures








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Old Mar 20, 2015 | 05:12 PM
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Nice looking rig! As for the rear window, when I got my '86 it didn't work. While checking the relay in the driver side panel I found there was no main power coming to it from the fuse block (larger diameter wire, can't remember color).

There's a large wiring connector with many wires passing through it from the fuse block to the rest of the harness, right in there by the fuse block. My problem was a corroded connection in that connector block - the terminal connectors for the rear gate glass main power circuit inside that connector were corroded. I clipped the wires from either side of the connector and reconnected them outside of the connector block and that was my fix.

Something else to check would be the switch that disables the rear glass mechanism when the top is off. One of the LH side rear mounting bolts for the top, its tip, contacts a switch inside the panel as you screw it down through the captured nut, which disconnects power to the tail gate. If there's no bolt in that one hole that could be the cause. Or is there supposed to be a special bolt for that hole? Can't recall . . .

Oh yeah, I'd be checking under those aftermarket rear fender flares for rusty stuff. The only rust in my '86 was under the factory rear wheel arch trim and plastic rock guards. Rocker and front wheel arch trim removal revealed no rust - only under the rear arch trim. I always take that crap off. It's only good for holding in dirt and moisture.

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