Hey I was just wondering if T100 front suspension would fit on my 1990 4x4. I thought since the Total Chaos LT kit fits both the pickups and T100's that the suspension must be similar but just differ in track width.

I was hoping to just throw on T100 IFS and axles to get a bit wider track and maybe a bit stronger too. I have found a couple dirt cheap T100's with blown engines or trannies. I was hoping to modify it for more travel too.

I just bought this truck a few weeks ago and it's my first Toyota ever, I used to be a Ranger guy before until I found this wicked deal.

 

I know its different but there's a guy on another forum that im on that put titan suspension on his frontier to do the same thing. He was 2wd though.

 

Yea, I want long travel but it's so expensive. I would even be happy if I could get some uniball UCA's and shock hoops but even that would run in the $2000 it seems once I buy the front shocks. I was hoping the T100 IFS would bolt right up and give me wider track width and a base to work off of.

 

The arms are the same as what you have now, so is the diff. Since the frame is wider, the axles have to be longer.

 

Oh ok, I thought the arms would've been a bit longer or something but the width is added in the frame. That's alright though, does anyone make just upper control arms? I was thinking of just gaining suspension travel by piecing it together over time, not really sure where to start though.

 

You can't really piece together a long travel kit.

If you buy a longer UCA, your camber's going to be extremely positive and your travel's not going to change. Even if you get both UCA and LCA, unless you put a limiting strap on them you'll tear open your stock shocks.

Its an all or nothing deal once you want to change the suspension geometry that much.

 

I know that, I've researched LT for quite a while (mostly for Ranger's though). But I know a lot of companies offer uniball UCA's to increase travel, I meant just a stock width one. Pretty much if I could put together a mid travel kit that would be good for now. As long as I keep things stock width I can do it piece by piece.

I just can't find any UCA's and suspension pieces. Maybe I should try to get a cheap 4x4 and use it as a mock up/test piece, I really only want to front section of the frame and some spare IFS pieces. There doesn't seem to be a lot to the TC kit, it's just really nicely welded and put together, other than that it's just pieces of steel.

 

I think TC sells their uniballs separately, but it may only be for the LCA. You'll get more travel out of it, but I wouldn't expect more than an inch or two. By the time you're done with all the part finding and tinkering you probably could've saved up enough money to buy a real long travel kit.

I would personally just wait. Do it once, do it right. If you're worried about money now, making your own long travel kit isn't something you should be doing.

 

Plain steel is way cheaper to cut, bend and weld together compared to paying over $2000 plus shipping a duty (everythings more expensive in Canada), paying for shock mounts etc.

That's the one thing I liked about Rangers, you didn't have to be a big baller to get a decent suspension setup going, even in a 4x4. I think the same applies for Toyota's and I am sticking to it even if I am wrong. You can always do stuff for cheap and that doesn't automatically mean it's gonna be crap. Plus I would like to practice more fabricating anyways so I really don't mind, which is why I would thinking of getting a cheap truck just to cut and weld and experiment on.

 

Oh you're in canada. That changes everything haha. I hear the duties are really bad.

I'd love a long travel kit myself, but I also don't have the money for it and my truck's a daily driver so I can't tinker with it like I want to. If you can find bolt on uniballs then try it out. I don't know how good of a fabricator you are, but if you're confident and you've got a spare truck then might as well go for it.

 

Yea, I am waiting to get a welder right now. I have access to a full metal shop at school up until November, I am taking an Aircraft Structures class. I hope to take a metal fabrication class after this too, the AS Tech is a lot of aluminum and riveting, which is real cool to learn and I will most likely end up working in this field but I also wanna learn more welding and steel fabrication. I am a hands on kinda guy so I am pretty confident picking up and using tools.

And yea, so much for "free trade" haha. I bought a Fox jersey off eBay a little while ago for about $25 Cdn after shipping. When it arrived the courier asked me to pay $45 in duties and brokerage fees haha.