RoadRage

Hey i am fairly new to the hole automotive world but getting into and so far love it. I have an 1988 pickup that has 4 mounting holes for a front bumper. To me that doesn't look like enough to support being tugged on by a winch or another persons rig. So my question first of all is it? and second of all if not what would some suggestions be to make it strong enough. I am Going to be customizing my own front bumper so anything i possible. Thanks a lot and ill post pics when i am done ( both my before i worked on the rig and after i have finished the major parts. Thanks every one any input is awesome.

Birdbrain

If i have to find pictures to show you, I will, but short answer Yes.

If you make your own, there are 4 other bolt locations, 2 on each side of the crossmember. My bumper ties into the front bolts and the 2 on the side. I have hit rocks, trees, hill sides and pushed and pulled other vehicles with it. No issues.

RoadRage

Thanks bird ill look for some pictures and such

RoadRage

Im obviously not very good at this finding stuff on forums cant find any helpfull pictures of mounts for a custom bumper. Any help would be wonderfull.

rattlewagon

The 4 bolt holes are correct. You dont have the 2 on each side that birdbrain is talking about, thats a 90-95 thing.

The front of the frame is pretty weak. If you plan on doing any winching, I would really suggest plating the front of the frame. Companies such as 4xinnovations makes a plate with gussets that you can weld on for additional strength.

Heres the front of my frame, plated with the 4xi brace, winch tested and approved.



Trail gear also makes a bolt on winch plate, I used that and built a bumper off of it. Thread here: https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...bumper-246102/

Good luck, let us know what you come up with.

vital22re

iTrader: (2)

best bet is to buy a trail gear winch mount plate and build off of that.

RoadRage

Awesome thanks for the help guys time to get er done

4Crawler

iTrader: (3)

I used those front 4 bolts plus the two sets of tow hook holes under the frame and then I also added a sleeved bolt through the front body mount brackets to mount mine:
- http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/4R_bumpers.shtml#Front