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[quote=snowshredder555;51833987]Finally got around to replacing the rear springs with OME's and putting in some new Bilsteins while relocating them from the inboard stock location to the outside portion of the frame.

What is the benefit of the relocation? And did you use 5125's or 5100's?

I'm close to replacing all 4 of mine and no one I've talked to thinks 5125's will work on my truck....

 

[QUOTE=punkelberg;51836207]I went with 5125 and mine were worn out. The rebound just wasn't happening, it would stick and not decompress like a shock should. Plus, I've alway's been an advocate of Bilstein ever since I experienced shock cavitation for the first time. With the same approximate length, compressed and extended as what the OME's are (with the 891's) along with similar valving the Bilstein's were a no brainer for me.

In theory:
I would get about an extra 1.5" of travel by moving them there. By moving them to a position like this, l l instead of / \ the overall droop with the same shock would increase. Now, the limiting factor is the ability of the rear control arm's to flex, as far as I can see with out actually testing it. My rear control arm bushings need replacing to so that'll be one of the next items to order up along with an extended brake line. When it max's out and the weight of the axle is on it, it looks as tight as a guitar string...not good...so I take bumps/ dips super slow.

1- Increased rear travel.

2- Increase of lateral stability for better body roll control.

3- Ease of service.

4- Small cost saving's for future replacement (just being honest)

5- I can fabricate/ weld so why not?

I'm sure there's more benefits to doing this but I can't think of any more BS to put down. I'd seen some one else do this to there rig and thought, YEAH! THAT'S A HELL OF A GOOD IDEA! I mean, TOYOTA has designed their new truck's this way, so there has to be something to it. The clearence between the shock and tire was enough to make me nervous after I tacked the brackets. But I went on with it anyway figuring that I have a grinder so I can fix it later if I didn't like it. Hope this helps. There's still more testing before I call it good but the holiday's are getting in the way.

As far as the front shock's are concerned, I've been reading up on the 1st Gen. Tundra struts and still have more research to do before I tackle this. But there seem's to be a lot of discussion on it and the Tacoma's strut. It's recommended to use the Tundra's because the valving is closer than it is with the Tacoma. With the Bilstein front struts, you get the adjustability of three locations as well. And I've read that those who've installed them usually do so on the lowest location and still achieve the lift desired. So, I'm in debate wether to use the front springs I have or chase after the 99' tall springs OR purchase something like the OME's...again, doing a ton of research before I pull the trigger. And reading through a 10-15 page thread, just to find the juice is really time consuming.

So here's a pic of how close the shock is to the passenger side rear wheel. Keep in mind, this is at full droop so the axle is being pulled to the P-side by the Track Bar.


-Ted

 

Nate- I totaly understand...but, when it comes to our trucks, I'd pick my Ford all over again. And traction in the rain the other day was dismal for me as well. Then again, I'm rolling on really worn 315/70/17's BFG AT KO's. Trying to convince the wife to shell out another $1200.00+ is a good idea for tires has proved a difficult task at best.

-Ted

 

Great idea! I like the idea of out-boarding the rear shocks, Ted. There are lots of advantages, like you mentioned. I wish I had the space between the frame and tire, I'd love to try something similar. With the added stability, have you tried disconnecting the sway bar yet? I'm curious if the shocks would be able to compensate and prevent excessive body roll. That's the only complaint I've really heard about 3-links, that they can be scary on the road without a sway bar, but if you could overcome that by out-boarding, that would be awesome!

 

I haven't disconnected it yet. I have some sounds coming from underneath and I'm hoping to address those in the next few minutes. Finally have another chance to work on it today. Things needing attention for the rear; relax all the rear control arms and grease em, grease the rear drive shaft, finish grinding shock mount and then paint...double check the travel with out the springs in<---the springs are a bear to get in and out.

I have upper and lower bj's, new brakes pads, new steering rack bushings and tie-rod outters to install today. Hope I can get to it today and take it tomorrow or 1st thing Monday morning for an alignment.

And thanks for the kudo's Nate. Though I didn't come up with the idea I thought is was an excellent one so I copied it. So far, I'm happy with it.

-Ted

 

I had my shocks moved out while i was out of town all week. Also my coils are no longer attached at the top, they will slide up and down on a tube with a bump stop, and limit straps. Should be a more stable ride with 5+ more inches of droop. Sweeeet!

 

mike, i sent you a pm, but im not sure it sent right

 

Got it. Back at 'ya.

 

alright i guess i will break the news i got ride of the runner but it has moved on to a good home i'm sure blknblu will take good care of her and i will do the same with his

 

WOW!

How'd that happen?

-Ted

 

glideraz-
how long did it take you to decide to sell the runner? I wanna get a 3rd gen! but i cant get past my mental block about selling both my 2nd gens. ive put both on craigslistas as a package deal 3 times and the minute i get the 1st responce i cant go through with it

 

I HAD to sell mine not to long ago and it was hard to see it go. With all the time I'd spent wrenching on it and cussing at it and enjoying every minute of it, I was sad to let it go. However, the 3rd gen I have now is a more comfortable ride and you can't beat the power of the 3.4 engine when compared to the 3.0 in the 2nd Gen. I loved my 90', it was a sweet 4Runner, but if I knew then that the 3.4 was the engine of choice, I would've bought that one instead. If your thoughts are to step up to the 3.4 then I would jump in with both feet. I had seen a lot of them over priced on Craigslist so you have to weed through them. Mine was listed for $5700 and I picked it up for $4100. I think I just presented my case as to the vehicles value in a respectful way and made a fair offer. I did have to negotiate a little but what's a $100.00? Do your home work and take it with you as hard proof to the seller. Some might get offended so be prepared to run.
-Ted

 

1st gen 4runners are my all time favorite yotas. But I always find sweet deals on pickups so I never end up with one. I'm a fan of the 22re.I don't think I would need any more power than I have now, on the toy that is... That's what my tundra is for

 

i like the 1st gens as well! i originally got my 94 from a dea agent for a 1000 bucks. he bought it in 94 and had perfect service records, no accidents the closest it got to offroad was pulling off the road to change a tire. and it ran beautiful i couldnt pass it up! now 4 years, 2 sets of hgs 1 tranny and what seems like 100s of hrs of wrench time. now i thought about trading up and getting an fj but seriously are the fjs really worth what toyota is selling them for

 

Seriously, new toyotas are SOO expensive!!

 

Yep! It's official. BLKNBLU now belongs to Glideraz. It will be interesting to see how the project progresses.

In the meantime, I now have this Toy:


New rubber is definately on the to do list. Other than that, I'm going to "try" to not do anything for awhile until I get a feel for the rig. Runs nicely and despite living in "no emissions" Pinal county recently, it went through with flying colors. So, kudos to Bryan for taking good care of his junk. The general plan is to keep this more mild as a camping/road trip vehicle. Time to change the sig...

 

nice pic there mike.

hopefully we can get a run together afetr the holiday so we can figure out how to wheel

 

Sooo, now can we see pics of the BLKNBLU mobile?




........And you both need to update your profile pic and signatures

 

hey does anyone know if i can change my login name?