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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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shackles...

Well i know im prolly gonna get yelled at about not usin the search button.. but anyways, what does everyone think about shackles on the front of my sas pkup? I only use it for hunting and mud bogging. it will be driven on the street occasionly. I will have 40x16x16 swamper LtB's on it. I want to lift my front end 2-3 more inches and i cannot find anyone that sells just FronT end lift. Any links for recommended sites? thanks guys
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 02:27 PM
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I run 3" longer than stock (2" lift) shackles on the front of my 81 and DD it and have no problems... you can buy just front leaf springs to lift your truck 3-4 inches if you haven't already...
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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can i put lift shackles on the front of my leaf springs?
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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front of my leaf springs on the front of my truck?
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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been doin some research, why would it hurt the truck to make shackles 3inch on the hanger end?
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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you can't have leaf spring attached to shackles at both ends.the springs would constantly move back and forth.leafs must be bolt to a hanger of some sort at one end
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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it's gonna be really hard to clear 40's with a shackle lift if not impossible.

you could put OME rear lift springs in the front.. that will give you a lot of lift

or stock rear springs up front

pro comp also sells just front lift springs, and so does OME

do some research

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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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im not tryin to clear 40's with just shackles. i alreaedy have more than enough lift, all i want to do is raise my front end a inch higher than the back to produce the bulldog effect. i dont want to do leaf springs because i already have lift springs on it. so if i make a shackle into a hanger on the rear of the spring then i can put the longer shackle on the front of the truck? thanks for the help guys
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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um i dont understand what your asking...
you want shackles on the front and back of your front springs? that wont work.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 10:10 AM
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what size shackels do you have on there?

your best bet is to just buy/build longer shackels.

ps.. what is the purpose of this "bulldog effect"?
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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x 2. i'm confused.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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So you want to run a hanger in the rear of the front leaf, and a long shackle in the front of the front leaf?....

If thats the case, heres my input. It wont matter, one is not easier to get lift out of than the other. If your front shackles are at 45* then add 2" to the shackle and call it done. Try not to acheive lift at the front of the spring, it will rotate your axle toward "flat" or 0* caster, and then you will be back here asking why your truck shakes VIOLENTLY at 35 mph
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mud4life
i alreaedy have more than enough lift
what i want to know is if you have more than enough lift why dont you just leave it how it is?

if you want the front higher than the back, just drop the back a bit, it will lower your COG rather than raise it.

lift is a bad thing, you should try and get the most tire under a small lift
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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do you have any body lift? if not why not just put one on to clear bigger tires. or just lower the psi in the rear tires to get the bulldog effect. i am really confused by the way.
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Old Feb 8, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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do you have any body lift? if not why not just put one on to clear bigger tires. or just lower the psi in the rear tires to get the bulldog effect. i am really confused by the way.
he said he already had more than enough for his desired tire size which is why i'm stumped as to why he wants more :/
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:45 AM
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the reason i want the bulldog effect is because i want the front to sit higher than the back. i dont like the way it looks when the back sits higher. i already have a 3 inch body lift. I dont want to tuck 40's, i want to clear them. I put 3inch shackles on the rear of my front leaf springs, but when i press the brake the axle moves back and when i let off vice versa. I dont know if this is a problem or not it doesnt seem to be. Plus i have to get my front driveshaft legnthed.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 04:46 AM
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Remember guys this truck is for the MUD not rocks.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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the reason i want the bulldog effect is because i want the front to sit higher than the back. i dont like the way it looks when the back sits higher. i already have a 3 inch body lift. I dont want to tuck 40's, i want to clear them. I put 3inch shackles on the rear of my front leaf springs, but when i press the brake the axle moves back and when i let off vice versa. I dont know if this is a problem or not it doesnt seem to be. Plus i have to get my front driveshaft legnthed.
you could put longer shackles on... 3" is stock shackle length you could be on a 5 or 6" shackle although if i were you i would just leave it alone

what springs are you running up front? when you say your axle moves back do you mean rotating, 3rd member moves up?
i may be able to help with this if you can get some pics, sounds like mine before i put brackets on to keep the spring packs together

oh and as far as a driveshaft goes, you could build one of these with hitch tubing (it has no inner seams)
just find a hitch shop and get about 18" of male/female seamless square tubing


it has an easy foot of sliding range and only cost me $30, also very strong. beats a long spline in every aspect imo

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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 07:48 AM
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^shackle touch much?
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:27 AM
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i posted some pictures in my profile albums. if you want more or somethin specific let me know and ill get them.
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