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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Anyone have a brand or type they recommend then?
TrailReady's are Siiiiiiick
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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I've been running beadlocks for years and have yet to be pulled over for them.

As for the laws, there is only one that can have any bearing on this issue. To be legal, the rim profile must meet one of the listed DOT standards, since they don't have any beadlock profile listed, then they are not legal. Now here's the tricky part, there are no laws on the books that specifically state that "beadlock" are illegal.

I feel that my rims are in the grey area, since they are stock Toyota rims that are DOT approved and stamped, then OMF did a outstanding job of welding on rings to the outer bead. I can still mount the tire to the stock location if needed. It still has the DOT approved rim profile, but with a added ring. There is no law that says I can't add any attachments to my rims, so I feel my rims are legal.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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I have a full width truck with OMF beadlocked 37's.

I have been in accidents, gotten speeding tickets, but never been hassled about the wheels. One time the cop even said how nice they looked.

Pirate has some great reading on this.

I think there are between 3 and 5 regular posters here who have locks.

Stauns are great, both beads and stealth. With any lock, you are going over the line into committing to messing with it yourself all the time. I have to pull one of mine apart because I picked up a screw in it. Discount is great, but they will not disassemble and patch the tire unless I take it off the lock.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
Yeah I saw those, they look like a real pain to install and since you need a tire mounting machine to do it you are at the mercy of the tire jocks to get it right. Oh and if installed wrong it could ruin them.
Those are one of the BEST around.
They lock both the inner and outer bead unlike most conventional beadlocks.
You don't need a tire mounting machine, you can do it yourself.
Obviously you don't have one of the "tire busters" and everyone who wheels should carry one.

The Stauns have been heavily "tested" by people that I know over the course of many runs out in JV and they simply are the best, hands down.





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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Those are one of the BEST around.
They lock both the inner and outer bead unlike most conventional beadlocks.
You don't need a tire mounting machine, you can do it yourself.
Obviously you don't have one of the "tire busters" and everyone who wheels should carry one.

The Stauns have been heavily "tested" by people that I know over the course of many runs out in JV and they simply are the best, hands down.





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Oh you can put them on without a tire mounting machine? That would be good then! I'll have to look at those install instructions again closer.

"Tire busters" ? No I haven't heard of them, more info please. I've googled and searched the term and don't find it. Some way to unseat the bead I guess?

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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
Oh you can put them on without a tire mounting machine? That would be good then! I'll have to look at those install instructions again closer.

"Tire busters" ? No I haven't heard of them, more info please. I've googled and searched the term and don't find it. Some way to unseat the bead I guess?
I'm just getting set to run out to a friends shop to put on some new rear springs and some other misc. things.
I'll take a photo or two of the "tire busters" and post up a web site when I get back later this afternoon.




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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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I'm just getting set to run out to a friends shop to put on some new rear springs and some other misc. things.
I'll take a photo or two of the "tire busters" and post up a web site when I get back later this afternoon.




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You ok Fred? Worried about you now.

I found another interesting option on Pirate FAQ page 6, but it wouldn't work on my existing rims:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=127
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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there is prob a .00001% chance of getting pulled over for beadlocks. TO many people has fony bead locks and cops know that so im sure they wont ever bother you. the only stupid things a cop usually pulls you over for is window tint up front and tires sticking out too far, no mud flaps, etc.

Hey 4cralwer has you ever heard of putting the beads inside your tire to keep your tires contantly balanced?? sounds lieka good idea just never of anyone actualy doing it yet.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by deserttoy84
there is prob a .00001% chance of getting pulled over for beadlocks. TO many people has fony bead locks and cops know that so im sure they wont ever bother you. the only stupid things a cop usually pulls you over for is window tint up front and tires sticking out too far, no mud flaps, etc.

Hey 4cralwer has you ever heard of putting the beads inside your tire to keep your tires contantly balanced?? sounds lieka good idea just never of anyone actualy doing it yet.
I have the beads in my bias ply tires. It works well, I was skeptical but for $20 what do you have to lose I figured.

With radial tires under 37" I dont know if I would bother with the beads...easier just to get them balanced, but for larger bias tires its a great option.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
You ok Fred? Worried about you now.

I found another interesting option on Pirate FAQ page 6, but it wouldn't work on my existing rims:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showp...&postcount=127
Ahh, stupid me, I forgot.
They're called "tyre plyers" by Extreme Outback:

http://www.extremeoutback.com/index....id=3680419.300

but also check out the same thing for a lot less money:

http://www.daymotorsports.com/product/1960/c/B296/



Bead Breaker and Tire Spoons:

http://www.cmwraceparts.com/Tools/tools141.htm





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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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Bead sealant/glue:
- http://www.4x4wire.com/forums/showfl...5&o=14&fpart=1
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 4Crawler
Thanks Roger, I'm going to try some kind of sealant. I wonder if that roofing stuff or windshield stuff will let you get the tire off later (when you want to that is)
I was wondering if I could break the bead loose with my highlift base, nice to see it works.

Hey Roger, don't you have a cheap tire mounting machine of some kind?

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Yes:
- http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=34542

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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Does it work ok on big tires?
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
Does it work ok on big tires?
Yup, I forgot to mention that Harbor Freight tire changer.
That works GREAT along with their wheel balancer with up to at least 35's.


The bead sealant doesn't work for the rocks that we wheel in.
You'll still pop beads and/or rotate the tires on the wheels.





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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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Does it work ok on big tires?
It handled my 35x12.50s just fine.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mt_goat
Yeah I saw those, they look like a real pain to install and since you need a tire mounting machine to do it you are at the mercy of the tire jocks to get it right. Oh and if installed wrong it could ruin them.
Go buy a couple tire spoons from your local carquest and do them yourself, its not rocket science or anything. Heres my install and brief review. Note, that after the one issue i did have, i have never had another one. I still think it was installer error.

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f31/staun-beadlock-install-90060/

Id highly recomend them to anybody.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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You could always get a spare set of tires and rims. Yea its probobly gonna cost ya but you can get your beadlockers and maybe a more aggressive tred for when you know your gonna go out for some serious wheeling that way you dont have to worry about rebalanceing them, just swaps the tires for your trips. I have a set of 31.5x 10.5 A/T's and my 33x12.5 BGF mudders. The mudders aren't beadlocked but im looking into getting a set.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 11:07 AM
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If spinning is your only issue, don't use glue or any kind of sealant, just do what we do in drag racing, screws. You just drill a small hole through the outer lip, insert screw into tire. The only draw back is that we use tubes in our back tires, so depending on what size tire you are running, you may not have that option.
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Old Apr 26, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Yodaforce
If spinning is your only issue, don't use glue or any kind of sealant, just do what we do in drag racing, screws. You just drill a small hole through the outer lip, insert screw into tire. The only draw back is that we use tubes in our back tires, so depending on what size tire you are running, you may not have that option.

A great way to totally fubar the bead and instantly void any warranty on the tires.....
Geezzz, just do it the right way and be done with it.
No one every said wheeling was a cheap sport.





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