Bumper Shackle mounts ??
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Ok I used the big new search feature it just does not answer my question.
Now having done a few vehicle recovery operations in the few years I have been driving.
I for the life of me can`t understand all these shackles hanging on the bumpers of vehicles.
I can see having the attaching points depending on if one is winching from the front or back using the other end to help secure the winching vehicle as well as ample chocks.
Is this a mall crawler thing ?? Along with the fancy hi -lift jack mount on the bumper with the fancy painted unused jack
Would you leave your Snap on ratchet outside in the weather as well.
Now having done a few vehicle recovery operations in the few years I have been driving.
I for the life of me can`t understand all these shackles hanging on the bumpers of vehicles.
I can see having the attaching points depending on if one is winching from the front or back using the other end to help secure the winching vehicle as well as ample chocks.
Is this a mall crawler thing ?? Along with the fancy hi -lift jack mount on the bumper with the fancy painted unused jack
Would you leave your Snap on ratchet outside in the weather as well.
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More ornery than usual today aren't we? 
Makes a quick place to hook a tow strap. I must admit I use mine more for dragging scrap around the shop yard than vehicle recovery.
Both my Hi Lifts are stored in the shop out of the weather.
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Makes a quick place to hook a tow strap. I must admit I use mine more for dragging scrap around the shop yard than vehicle recovery.

Both my Hi Lifts are stored in the shop out of the weather.

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This is the closest thread I could find to my question, didn't want to start a new thread.
So I have got a trail gear rear bumper on my 4runner and it always crosses my mind that recovery is a bit sketchier now. I DO NOT have any welds on the bumper to frame nor do I have any shackles or a recovery hitch. Is it possible to just wrap a strap around the center of the bumper and start yanking on it? IMO, the worst that can happen is the bolts bend and get pulled right through the slots and the bumper falls on the ground. Is that the worst that can happen? If myself or another rig were axle deep in mud would the bumper pose a safe recovery point?
So I have got a trail gear rear bumper on my 4runner and it always crosses my mind that recovery is a bit sketchier now. I DO NOT have any welds on the bumper to frame nor do I have any shackles or a recovery hitch. Is it possible to just wrap a strap around the center of the bumper and start yanking on it? IMO, the worst that can happen is the bolts bend and get pulled right through the slots and the bumper falls on the ground. Is that the worst that can happen? If myself or another rig were axle deep in mud would the bumper pose a safe recovery point?
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:jessica: As bad as it would be I would put a strap around the rear axle
If this is a real good mud and your sunk to the frame you most likely would pull off the bumper before moving anything.
Then mud is like snow so many different kinds so who knows
If this is a real good mud and your sunk to the frame you most likely would pull off the bumper before moving anything.
Then mud is like snow so many different kinds so who knows
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I would rather fubar a bumper than an axle...you can still drive home missing a bumper
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Yea I totally agree DZ, however I would rather have a safe recovery and not break anything. And that is good advise Wabbit. I actually found some rings that are welded to the frame which look like a great spot for a D-ring.
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I knew a guy who was killed when a piece of the truck he was pulling broke off, went through the back window of his Jeep, and hit him in the back of the head.
10k lb shackle. 1/4" plate to Grad 8 bolts at the frame. 3+" wide recovery strap (no hooks!!). Steady pull.
I have this bumper from 4xinnovations:

Despite the fact that that receiver is Class II rated. I pull from the points off to the side, as they do not rely on any welds to transfer the force directly to the frame.
Looks like the Trail gear one doesn't quite have the same:

There are holes in the brackets between the bumper tubes that you could probably put a shackle through, but it wouldn't be a straight pull on the shackle, which would weaken it. Also, that receiver is not rated for towing at all....so I REALLY wouldn't trust it as a tow point.
Just remember. If your recovery point breaks. You're putting the occupants of the other vehicle in danger.
10k lb shackle. 1/4" plate to Grad 8 bolts at the frame. 3+" wide recovery strap (no hooks!!). Steady pull.
I have this bumper from 4xinnovations:

Despite the fact that that receiver is Class II rated. I pull from the points off to the side, as they do not rely on any welds to transfer the force directly to the frame.
Looks like the Trail gear one doesn't quite have the same:

There are holes in the brackets between the bumper tubes that you could probably put a shackle through, but it wouldn't be a straight pull on the shackle, which would weaken it. Also, that receiver is not rated for towing at all....so I REALLY wouldn't trust it as a tow point.
Just remember. If your recovery point breaks. You're putting the occupants of the other vehicle in danger.
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