So Many Roads

Attached is a picture of the grinding required to use stock split 3 spoke wheels with the 231mm calipers. Courtesy of SharpStick - his contribution & post is early in this thread.

poleclimber63

Thanks for the pic! Job for this winter...

98SR54RUNNER

iTrader: (1)

I was looking for some Tundra brake info. Why removed?

rworegon

The Tundra brake upgrade thread links that were in post one are Ritzy4Runner's and Rock Slide's.

Edit: post one has been restored by Admin. Will leave links here too.

ETRNL

about to order parts just making sure the 231mm calipers will clear, i havent seen hardly any 4runners with these rims.

terminator

iTrader: (1)

From what I've seen and read those wheels will clear with no spacers.

ETRNL

thanks for the quick reply!

ETRNL

so it isnt an issue of will it clear the id of the rim the fitting issue are if the caliper protrudes further than the hub shoulder of the lugs, right?

VA4Runner757

I posted this on T4R.org, thought you guys could use this info:
I got most of my gear from Advance Auto ONLINE ONLY, because they were offering like 20% off, or $30 off of $75, $50 off of $100 or something like that. I ended up doing like 6 orders (To Save $$$) for my entire Tundra 13WL brake upgrade and ended up spending around $300 and I got the more expensive of everything. I went with Wagner ThermoQuiet Ceramic brakes, etc.

I HIGHLY suggest doing it this way, you'll end up paying like $275-$330 for the entire job, for name brand parts and new equipment.

Here are some PROMO codes, use these upon checkout online at AdvanceAutoparts.com
Advance Auto Parts Coupons: Get $30 Off w/ 2013 Coupon Codes, Promo Code

The ones I used:
P20 - 20% off Entire Order
HUGE30 - $30 off of Orders $90+
HUGE50 - $50 off of Orders $175+

MY PERSONAL FAVORITE:
A124 - $10 Off $30 or $25 Off $70 or $40 Off $110 orders.

These codes work for EVERYTHING needed to do the brake upgrade. As far as I have used it, and known, they do NOT work with any Engine oils/oil filters. Advance usually has sales on their oil so the promos don't work.

For Parts:
Use, like an above poster said, FOR 231mm - the 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 (4WD/2WD Doesnt matter) - Front Left/Right Calipers, Rotors, and Pads. (Most often times, depending on brands, the calipers and pads come with hardware, like the "M" clips and such.)

If you want the 199mm - Ask for a 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 (4WD/2WD Doesnt matter) - Front Left/Right Calipers, Rotors, and Pads. (This is because in '05, they upgraded all Tundras to the 231mm, due to issues with towing and such. I believe.)

ENJOY!!!

spidermike9

I just did the upgrade last week on my 96 Limited. I upgraded to 199mm calipers. I used standard Brembo rotors (p/n 25534, $65 each), Raybestos reman calipers (p/n's FRC11039 and FRC11040, $71 each) and Thermoquiet pads. Everything was purchased on Amazon. I bled the brakes with a Motive Power Bleeder. I've heard bad things about using the Motive with Toyotas but I didn't have a problem. I was able to get a great seal after the 2nd try - no mess, super easy.
It only took an hour or so to do the upgrade. The hardest part for me was trying to figure out how the brake pad retainer springs were supposed to be attached. I didn't pay attention while I was taking apart the 4Runner calipers so I had to go online to find photos that others had posted.
The Tundra rotors are significantly heavier than the 4Runner rotors which will help greatly in preventing warping.
At first the brake pedal travel increased slightly but after a day or so it was back to normal (or I just got used to it).

toyrunner01

i did the upgrade but now i seem to have a problem. perhaps it's just me but the
pedal seems soft. i have bled, front and back to make sure and still soft. i doubt there is a problem with the booster otherwise i would have known prior to this.

UKrunner

Can you grind down the caliper instead if the wheel?

pmoose

Does anybody have any information or advice on how to go from the banjo bolt connection on a 2002 Tacoma front caliper to the hardline connection of the Tundra 13WE? I recently bought a pair of front rotors and calipers from a 2000 Tundra at a junkyard and now realized the brake lines are different. It seems the 4runners don't have this problem...

mtvp

toyrunner01, Did you get to bottom of the soft pedal issue?
I have to ask the guys that did the 199mm calipers. Did all of you notice more pedal travel and or softer pedal?
Is it a downside to this upgrade ? It does not show up in many of the threads. It looks like guys have been jumping on this switch for sometime. I have to guess that there really is little or no downside to this.

YotaTecha

Did the upgrade 10k miles ago - new rotors and used 199mm calipers - and the braking has been phenomenal. Its one of the things I wish I had learned and done earlier.
Now my rig got rear ended and it looks like the insurance is gonna total it. F@#$%^s!
May have to buy another 3rd Gen and swap the brakes before turning it in ;- )

mtvp

That's also a good question. Would an Insurance company not cover a claim if they knew the brakes were not stock? I'm not sure they would be sharp enough to find out.
Hope you find a replacement.

sdsurfer

It is a Huge improvement. Maybe if he rear ended and milled someone.

did my brakes last week. 231mm oh yeah

sethman42

What did you spend on parts in total? I just have to fix my brakes and an upgrade would be nice if possible. That if is a big one. Broke college kid here.

nicheel

After suffering through the same brake issues I've decided to do the swap. I am going with the 199mms and just wanted to get some thoughts.

1. Has anyone had issues with Autozone Calipers ($75) or should i go with another manufacturer?
2. Rotors - OEM ($57) vs aftermarket?
3. Pads - OEM ($56) vs aftermarket?

Thanks

rhill

Junkyard calipers, brembo rotors, whatever pads you like. These Tundra calipers are essentially a lifetime part. Aftermarket stuff is just as good as OEM for brakes IMO. I used Brembo rotors and use Wagner thermoquiet on all my cars.