I just got done installing a 4crawler 1.5" body lift on my 2000 tacoma and (almost) everything went well, and it looks awesome now! thanks for the quality parts. However, I do have a few suggestions to make your kits even better. In addition to the lift, I ordered the heavy duty hardware... It was kind of a pain that the bolts for the radiator and the bolts for the cab were different threads; if possible please unify this. I also ordered the front bumper raising brackets. The bolts holding these on were large hex key bolts and it would be much easier if they were standard hex-head machine screws. Other than those 2 things, everything else came out great.

 

Have you tried his home site at, of all possible names, www.4crawler.com?

 

Actually, no. and the reason I didn't was because I didn't want other people installing the same lift to get mixed up like I did -- and I can inform Roger at the same time. Does that make sense to you?

 

Yes..., as long as you've posted the same over there as people frequent his site as well who utilize the same lift and I believe that he's even got a suggestion option there.

 

At least you got bolts, I just got zip-ties and duct tape..

J/K I don't even have a taco.

 

Tuesday is Taco night at Del Taco... 3 for 99 cents! No excuses now DR

 

On the bolt threads, it is hard to get the same pitch on bolts, especially when it comes to long bolts and Grade 8 bolts. I try to always use fine thread similar to stock (they are stronger), but in some cases, only coarse thread are available. And it is the Tacoma that has the drastically different bolt lengths and thus is more prone to this issue. If you could elaborate on the "pain" caused by the different thread pitches, perhaps I could better understand the problem.

On the bumper brackets, I do use hex head cap screws on the taller brackets, but at the lower heights, you need to be able to fit the bracket flush to the frame and on some models/years, the only way to do that is with the flat head screws. You could always swap the bolts if you had a situation where the bolt heads are clear of the frame.

 

After unwrapping the kit to put it all on the truck, I didn't realize right away that the radiator and cab bolts were different thread pitches. I cross-threaded one of the nuts without realizing it, and had to go get a replacement.


On the tacoma (at least the 2000) it doesn't look like the bracket will ever hit the frame if you use regular hex head screws. I'm reluctant to go buy more hardware to replace the brand new hardware I purchased with the kit. I only mean this as a suggestion to improve your kits if possible, and make it even easier to install (not that it wasn't easy already!).

 

I do put the mating nuts on the bolts when I ship them just to prevent any cross threading. Sorry you had those issues, I'll make a note of this in the installation instructions (updated instructions have been uploaded to the web site). My supplier is slowly adding to their long bolt selection, used to be only Grade 8 NC was offered, recently they added Grade 5 NC and slowly the NF threaded bolts are available longer lengths. As they are I try to replace my stock with fine thread but until every size and grade bolt is available in fine thread, this can be an issue.

It is never a good idea to not force a nut on a bolt. If it will not go on with your fingers, something is wrong. That is why I pre-thread nuts on all the bolts I ship, if a nut will not go on a bolt, it is discarded and replaced with another one that will.

I'll make a note of the bumper bracket bolts on the 1.5" and taller brackets and go with those in the future. The only way I know of things like that is if folks provide feedback like this. Nobody has ever mentioned this in the 4+ years the Tacoma kits have been shipping.