95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners 4th gen pickups and 3rd gen 4Runners

Front tires/wheels dont pull hard enough with 4x4?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 19, 2004 | 10:49 PM
  #1  
baileymoto's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Front tires/wheels dont pull hard enough with 4x4?

I took my yota (3rz) into some serious offroad for the first time today. I got into some pretty hairy terrain and had the back tire spinning (i have no locker). anywho, to make a long story short, it seemed as if my front tires/wheels wernt really helping me out any. shouldnt they be at least pulling me through some of this? would it have helped if i used 4LO?
Reply
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:19 PM
  #2  
Yoter's Avatar
Guest
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,055
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by baileymoto
I took my yota (3rz) into some serious offroad for the first time today. I got into some pretty hairy terrain and had the back tire spinning (i have no locker). anywho, to make a long story short, it seemed as if my front tires/wheels wernt really helping me out any. shouldnt they be at least pulling me through some of this? would it have helped if i used 4LO?
Maybe your 4wd wasnt working. How much psi did you have in your tires? Do you have an automatic or manual trans.? What was the terrain like?
Reply
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:27 PM
  #3  
baileymoto's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by BigBadBlue
Maybe your 4wd wasnt working. How much psi did you have in your tires? Do you have an automatic or manual trans.? What was the terrain like?

manual hubs, 4x4 was working before and after that spot. the terrain was loose dirt/gravel going up on a hill. my front tires were over a little hump and i was very close to high centering. i had moderate flex with my rear left tire spinning. i have all terrain 265 tires (stock size). my yota is completely stock. i dont know the exact PSI, but its at or around the suggested pressure (i didnt air down).
Reply
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:35 PM
  #4  
Poor A$$ Stock '93's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 86
Likes: 0
From: Prince George, BC, Canada 'eh
If you were actually in 4wd then then one of your front tires would have had to be spinning as well or they should have pulled even if one of the rears was spinning. With open lockers if one front and one rear are spinning you aren't going anywhere. If you were resting on your t-case cross member then it is really easy to unweight the front tires enough that they both just spin and don't bit. If both front tires are getting traction it will either pull you out or stall (w/ a manual anyway). If you aren't moving and the rear is spinning and neither of the fronts are, then there is something wrong and 4wd isn't working.

Last edited by Poor A$$ Stock '93; May 19, 2004 at 11:42 PM.
Reply
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:35 PM
  #5  
Yoter's Avatar
Guest
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,055
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by baileymoto
manual hubs, 4x4 was working before and after that spot. the terrain was loose dirt/gravel going up on a hill. my front tires were over a little hump and i was very close to high centering. i had moderate flex with my rear left tire spinning. i have all terrain 265 tires (stock size). my yota is completely stock. i dont know the exact PSI, but its at or around the suggested pressure (i didnt air down).
Well I personally would be quick to blame the issue on to much psi in the tires & the loose terrain. Buy a $10 aircompressor and $2 tire guage. It makes wheeling a lot funner when there is less of a struggle. Guessing your running around 30 psi in those tires. try airing down to 20 psi for starters and see how it handles up there. If you still have issues with climbing try airing down more. Even with 35 inch TXR's, 5.29 gearing, and a rear locker I have small issues on certain trails. Airing down makes the game worth playing!
Reply
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:43 PM
  #6  
baileymoto's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Poor A$$ Stock '93
If you were actually in 4wd then then one of your front tires would have had to be spinning as well or they should have pulled even if one of the rears was spinning. With open lockers if one front and one rear are spinning you aren't going anywhere. In 4wd if both front tires are getting traction it will either pull you out or stall, one of the two. If it is stalling then using 4lo will reduce the speed that the wheels turn and increase effective torque to the wheels and will provide more pulling power over 4hi at the cost of reduced maximum speed. If you aren't moving and the rear is spinning and neither of the fronts are, then there is something wrong and 4wd isn't working.

perhaps I am wrong and one of my front tires was spinning. what would be an effective way to diagnose a problem with my 4x4? any easy/nifty tricks? my truck is still under warrenty so anything wrong could be fixed. i know 4wd 'works' because I can tell a huge difference in driving up gravel trails. could 4wd be 'failing' in extremely demanding conditions though? is that possible?
Reply
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:43 PM
  #7  
calrockx's Avatar
Contributing Member
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,749
Likes: 0
From: Santa Clarita, California
yeah, airing down makes a big difference. plus, sometimes you just gotta to accept you're not going to make it. around here, so cal, some hills are just really really loose dirt and an open diff 4wd ain't gonna make it. even a locked one will have trouble.

your best bet right now for the tough stuff, is to air down, go 4lo, and pick a good line.

too much wheelspin can cause problems.
Reply
Old May 19, 2004 | 11:58 PM
  #8  
baileymoto's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
any suggestions on what kind of locker to look into buying? how are eaton elockers? i found one for $325, is that a decent deal? (30 spline)

Last edited by baileymoto; May 20, 2004 at 12:08 AM.
Reply
Old May 20, 2004 | 12:11 AM
  #9  
Yoter's Avatar
Guest
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,055
Likes: 0
This may help in locker shopping

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/show...=eaton+elocker
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
bigjstang
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners
21
Jun 2, 2025 03:56 PM
lledwod
Items Wanted
1
Aug 30, 2016 01:03 PM
Jnkml
95.5-2004 Tacomas & 96-2002 4Runners
3
Jul 6, 2015 01:20 PM
toyoda8488
84-85 Trucks & 4Runners (Build-Up Section)
2
Jul 5, 2015 10:18 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:53 PM.