Hahaha, thanx, and so is that cummins! Btw, danggggg, i'm starting to get a complex over my thread being too long or fast moving for people to keep up with :-( hehe. Oh well, is what it is, right? I'll eventually get to making a consolidated/summarized thread,....... EVENTUALLY, NOT NOW! o.O

Thanx again, terry, and it was great speaking with you again! Always enjoy it.

Yep, that'd have been a "DAGNABBIT!" moment, for sure! Lol... glad u got it sussed... I just wanted to offed my space/tools and a hand if u needed em ;-)

Thanx for the excellent tips... I did do all new Koyo Bearings and races from Napa years ago when I did my rotors.... hopefully I can di just an off and on after only 15k or so... we will see, right?

 

Just wanted to share this front page/FULL PAGE article in the Daily Breeze Newspaper with u all...... I recommend reading it online, and note the "83 TOYOTA PULLS ALL THE STUCK VEHICLES FROM THE MUD, ONE BY ONE" portion..... hahahah.... BUTTTTTT, also note the carefully worded "highly controversial event where off road vehicles traverse streams where the endangered 'santa ana puffer fish' live and 'through drinking water of citizens in the valley below' portion... The article goes beyond that, and it's continued on another page... I'll let u read it as I want to avoid what I would like to say as when formerly part time writing at freedom torch and human events dot com.... This is Yotatech, so I wont, to that extent,....but its important to see whats coming if ur a wheeler. I'll just leave it at this; People I've known for 30 years, 20 or so years ago, would always say, "OH C'MONNN, they can't and wont take that away!", even here in CA..... They dont say such things any longer... And its not an "ALL SCATHING COMMENTARY" on the sport... Just trust me.... they've already blocked off TONS of OHV areas here in the ANGELES CREST NAT. FOREST, ... ask Redeth, I took him up there, where they now even have PILONS all over, impassable ones! Anyway, interesting, IMHO, to see this as a front page article. And, well, I'm sure the San juaquin farmers disnt think the delta smelt fish would put 40, 000+ of them in poverty in a dust bowl.... but oh well, eh????>>>>

 

Hey, it's not your fault if people can't keep up! Not like I'm saying I can, my whole build thread consists of maybe 4 posts involving building.

Definitely gonna check out that article. We flew over that place when we were on the Williams fire last season, watched a Blazer/Bronco(it was hard to tell exactly from our altitude) that was stuck being pulled by some guy taking a run at it and yanking him. Starting probably 15 ft from bumper to bumper and the chain/strap looked at least 50 ft long, so he was really getting a run at it!

 

ANOTHER busy and productive day, homies.... lets get to it...........

Jack up rig, slap some stands under her, remove wheels.....

1. Push back pads from disc/rotor, Unbolt caliper from steering knuckle, pull up caliper and hang from upper A-arm with mechanics wire or zip ties, careful not to crimp or damage brake line....

2. Remove frewheel hub cover, axle end nut, remove freewheel hub body, remove c-clip and pull 54mm nuts and star washer.

3. While next pulling the rotor with the wheel hub, be careful not to let the outer bearing fall on the ground. I take a paper plate and force it over the lug nut studs, that way the bearing can remain in there until u can lay the hub down......

Hub and rotor removed.....



I use a 1/2" drive impact to remove 6 bolts holding rotor and wheel hub together...



Stood the HART Black Zink V6 rotors next to the 4cyl rotors....



(They are not quite that much taller as they appear, but they're both taller by a tiny bit and clearly both wider and thicker each fin...)

Got new rotors on my hubs.....



Torque as directed. .....



All my bearings and races are newer KOYO Japan(maybe 15k mi. on em?) , and I think it looked pretty nice in there, Syn Power grease and all!....



(If u do this and haven't repacked or inspected ur bearings in a while, this is the time... but u will need a replacement seal ready and bearings sourced in advance, in case u need to pick some up. GET A BEARING PACKER AND GOOD GREASE! and shop around, you CAN find OEM Japan bearings for a reasonable cost. NOT cheap, but they are WAY better quality than most parts stores are gonna have.)

Cut backing plate on both sides around 1/5" and see if V6 calipers will fit with bolts just started into steering knuckle. (You need to do this before u put ur hub and rotor back on...... )[pic borrowed from CORAX, one of my main sources on this swap/upgrade].....



Once u know the caliper will fit, Mount new rotor w/hub (be sure u grease the spindle, well, first) ...



Now reinstall well packed outer bearing and outer washer, then bearing preload nut, to specs! (This is even in the Haynes. ..... and if u want your bearings to last, do it the way Toyota did it in the first place, with the preload tension spring, 54mm socket, and then make sure you torque the outer nut 2 specs .) > > >

http://www.off-road.com/trucks-4x4/t...ent-18322.html. > > >



I was very careful to keep my hands of the rotor, should always wear gloves, change them often, during this job. .... but I cleaned a couple spots with brake cleaner, wearing a respirator (PLEASE don't take your young and super healthy lungs for granted and think u don't need one. .... I've met many men who are now in dire straights due to never using even dust masks. .. Some are young.... And even lost an uncle to chemical exposure, he cleaned rail road parts).....



Installed the manual locking hubs back on. ....



Then I slapped the totally refurbished Aisin V6 Calipers, brake-lubed everything pertinent, THEN FINALLY, disconnected the brake line to the 4cyl caliper, did my mild bending into place madness, CARWFULLY got the brake line installed in the new to me calipers,...... and THEN??? WELL, then I called it SUSIE! hahaha.....



Did the same to the other side....




......and the front will now stop hard enough to remove the shell from the roof! Haha...

There she sits till tomorrow, when I can slap in the new wheel cyls, bleed her out and then call her out for a good time in the mountains! Wooot! Hehe.......

 

Freakin awesome man! Doesn't look like that was too hard, but the devil is in the details. So do the pads make full contact with the rotor, or does it overhang like the specs say they will? Another thing, never had experience with slotted rotors, but they're directional, right? Were there instructions for which way they go?

Good idea on the paper plate to catch the outer bearing, I think I'll be using that when I go ahead and assemble the axle for good.

 

really great looking rotors mark

 

Good job Mark

Looks really sweet... I'd have maybe painted the calipers "brembo" [or is that "Toyota"] red... gonna have to do the brakes on mine this year some time think I'm gonna paint mine this time.

On that badge it does'nt look like any particular Kangi character looks to me more like a stylized dragon motif.

 

Sup Mark. Sorry i couldnt help ya bleed'em out yesterday. had plans so i had to get going. Looks like you did a sweet job though. Always like how you pay attention to detail.
So what time did you end up finishing the install yesterday?

 

Nice work Mark! looks good!

Aviator you're right...after spending some time researching the net and other forums it is in fact a Dragon!! I can totally see that now. I'm going to keep it.

 

Nice write up, rig lookin great!

 

Great write up and hope the mask saved you some problems. I am going to mark this page for future reference.

When you get the chance can you list the suppliers and the parts that they provide such as Aisian,Dakin,Denso and what they produce, bearings,clutches.... You are be a walking encyclopedia when it comes the part suppliers that Toyota used and alot of times I can find them on ebay.

 

^^ hahah i feel ya on that one. he can be so helpful.

 

How much are you into the brakes?

I think one of mine is seizing. My front right grabs and I've smelt it before, it comes and goes. I think with the extreme cold it may also have warped the rotor. It feels like when you bend a disk on a bike as she coasts to a stop.

So if I fix one side might as well do the other. I don't know if the best option is find rebuild kits or buy new calipers.

You bought new (rebuilt) V6 calipers right?


As usual checking how much you've done I feel lazy.






Nice work.


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Totally agree with what you said about dust masks bro. People under use them too often. There are all kinds of hidden nasties in the chemicals we use. For professional mechanics I've read that testicular cancer is higher than normal. The chemicals and oils from working without gloves absorb through the skin settling in your nuts.....


In the iron ore mines I worked at in Australia few wear dusk masks if they can get away with not wearing them. Even though they hit asbestos pockets as it's the same area as the old asbestos mines....

I wore mine whenever I could get a respirator.

 

I will answer u all in a couple hours, just had a crazy day that started at 5am and hasnt stopped yet, lol. .. Thanx for all the kind words

 

cdn smoke no he rebuilt the v6 calipers bought from pickapart look back a couple pages he shows the steps to rebuild them terry has done it as well with 4cyl calipers

 

Mark go get yourself some primo rack time mano.

The one problem with masks is sometimes you just can't wear them because they get in the way... for example when you're working in confined spaces sometimes there is only room for one forearm, the can of lube, and your head to see where the spray is going...
the problem is hardly anything is built to be "maintained"... Sure it goes together nice when they build it but when you have to service it every 100/200 hrs there is no time to take half the plane apart to get that nice easy access... you have to squeeze in where you can... fortunately most of the lubricants/chemicals we use these days are "safe" ... long as you don't concentrate and "huff" them.

 

Pads appear to be quality Carbon-Ceramic, well fixed backing plate, and they DO hang over.. around 1/32nd of an inch, lol. The new Rotors did in fact make a big difference in how it would have sat. PLUS, with these beefier calipers, I'm guessing things could get hotter(which to some degree is GOOD with ceramic pads... but not TOO HOT, lol)... Thus, the venting/slotting/drilling, lol. Carries heat away from the hub, that's the idea with the design of the fins..... The key with slotted and drilled isn't ALL in the slotting/drilling... it's in the venting fins. Good write up/explanation.....

http://www.newtiburon.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=161858

Paper Plate Technique FTW! lol... They're VERY HD Paper Plates, btw.. You know the ones... Coated types that ACTUALLY HOLD a plate of food without collapsing? hehe. it works GREAT

Thanks alot, man... I feel good supporting a local machining Company... I KNOW how hard it is in L.A., CALIFORNIA, period, to function/break even after all the CAP and TRADE style regulations and fees, etc., going on. IT'S UNREAL! They appear to be VERY good quality and to specs... BUT, I know, time will tell.. So for those who are waiting to see how they work/if they grenade on me, lol.... I GET IT, I do...Totally understand. I'll keep you all updated on them......

Sorry, just saw that, man! .... YES, it's a Dragon, lol... BTW, .... know what "Cressida" means? hehee.... They gotz their own symbol too ... And thanks, man... Means a lot from another DETAIL INTENSIVE BROTHA!

I totally understand, Richard... Glad you could get the table.. They're SICK! I've put wood in that one really quick and jumped up and down on it... The thing is INSANELY solid! Anyway... LOVE things that don't rust, ya know? lol... And I finished around dark... BUT, was starting to feel crappy... SO I did what I could today, on a break. I'll do a post next.

WOOT, .... Dragons ROCK! ........Right Dragon? hehehe. Thanks, Grego... I like how it looks too... Pretty happy with it all.

HEY, MANG! Sup SC, ..... glad to see ya round! How's the projects coming? Haven't seen any updates.... Did my sub' get jacked up?

Hmmm, which parts you mean, Terry? Did I forget to list some? I will gladly dig up some receipts for the purpose of part numbers, etc. The Hart Black Zinc Rotors supplier is on that link I posted. It stood out that it was local. The Caliper Rebuild/Seal kit is just tpz..... I had returned some things to them on their dime, .... so shipping was free, ended up being pretty reasonable. I know o'reilly's version is made by Wagner-USA... All brake parts manufactured in the USA now? that's what I was told anyhow. Buddy works there. Masters are allllllll over......... BUT, as Grego noted.... seems Amazon is having some INCREDIBLE deals on Aisin stuff's... you just need to contact them and get GUARANTEED that it's actually Aisin/NEW... not reman'd in Mexico, etc. Advics will be NEW and OEM SPECS, guaranteed. The booster? PRICEY.... At least for an OEM JDK-Bendix, which they apparently all were. I think it's around 150$ for junk... So I imagine 400$ for Dealer, 240$ for Advics or something like that? Not really sure.... BUT, they RARELY go bad... At least in CA.. So I'd look for used.

Encyclopedia? ME? hahaa... I think you're the man on that, along with a few others on here. I'm learning though, right? hehehe.

Very nice thing to say, Richard... Thanks, man! .... Appreciate you as well, man.

Hey Man, .... I MAKE YOU feel lazy? hahaha.... Wow, thanks! BUT, I think you're quite the dynamo of Mod Frenzies, no? lol.... Sick rig you got!

Well, ... so far, .............. 46$ on a KILLER deal from PYPart 50% off Weekend for Pristine Aisin 1" master cyl, 95 v6 4runner Calipers and 94 V6 dual Diaphragm booster.........

Ended up with OEM Seal/Rebuild kit for the calipers for free/still have some credit/ at toyotapartszone.com . I had a credit. They're reasonable, especially if you're going to finally order some other stuff. In fact, check with dealerdirectparts.com... I believe they're free shipping over 100$. If not, check all the trademotion dealers for Toyota and take the best price, ya know?

V6 Angle Drilled and Slotted Rotors/ Hart Black Zinc; 120$ or so to my door(They are free shipping through Amazon.com, I believe)..... Got them in VERY short timing.

So, full new/or restored/or like new/ ....but all pretty much new, haha, "V6 Brake Upgrade" was, for me, so far, ... 166$? I think I did pretty good on that... VERY grateful.... Got blessed on some deals and GREAT info from Corax and others!

Thanks, buddy. Smokes a good bloke... But yeah, people will look those up, OEM ones, and say, 'HOLY CRAPOLI, FORGET THIS!', hahaha... 480$ ....EACH, .... with 30% Discount at Toyota parts zone, hahaha.. BUT, used, cleaned up and resealed right? WELL worth every penny of the 15$ I paid! hehehe.

DO need sleep.... Gonna get some shortly! Yep, .... there are always exceptions.... But NO MORE, whenever I can help it! The Respi's nice.... Can't smell a THING! I have a really nice one, too... Buddy STILL hasn't returned it. BUT, my brother in law is getting me another. He owns a Hazmat Co. haha.

 

OK, ....

Today, I bled the system at around 7am... Then I did a lot of driving to a gig and back, ... Bled again, pulled the Freewheel Hubs again and reset the wheel bearing preload..... 100 MILES later and already, as usual, ..... the spindle adjusting nut was hand loose(Even though I'd fully packed the bearings and spindles properly, as always.... There's always a lil area here and there to fill when spinning at 80mph, lol...)...

Finished putting it all back together again on a break from the days runaround...



LOVE my Mighty-VAC, .... Always made use of it for testing Emissions issues and ...... Bleeding. You can see from the initial pumping through the first caliper, it was NASTY(the Larger lower container)... Then second run, lil better(same first pic but in the Mighty-VAC Reservoir)...... Finally, clean enough to run(Second pic, in Mighty-VAC reservoir)... BUT, I did another after that last one in the second pic(no time for another pic/too dirty to handle the Note2, lol)...





Installed the Low Profile Upper Bump Stops while out there as well... Check another thing off the list .... (WAS A PITA on one of them!.... Was frozen up well, even after soaking really well, many times, with Naval Jelly and PB Blaster)...... Anyway, DONE! lol.....

 

Good read on the brake rotors. A little confusion about centrifugal and centripetal force, but the gist is there. I think I've always seen the slots going the other direction, probably cause it looks faster that way, but the explanation there makes sense.

Oh yeah, I definitely know the plates you're talking about. For awhile when I was working at Home Depot and not making the money I do now, that was all I had, and they're dishwasher safe, even!

Btw, keep an eye on my thread Mark, I should have some suspension work going on this weekend.

 

Thanks Chef. I'll get googling after some more sleep and start looking up your parts. I lost where you rebuilt them in the sea of pages you have!

I can't imagine they take long to rebuild and I like saving money where I can. Also depends on shipping. I saw that Marlin Crawler has a brake package with already rebuilt calipers. I'll have to do the math.

I might get an Fj80 master as an upgrade.

As for progress, mods are exciting. Maintenance jobs are harder to self motivate.

The cold is almost over way up here and my back is on the mend. No excuses coming soon. I've got work to do on the wagon.