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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 10:04 PM
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Why not apply for a bonded title? Just a thought. I've heard guys say it's not that hard.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 85sr5excab
Why not apply for a bonded title? Just a thought. I've heard guys say it's not that hard.
Its not my plan for this truck. I bought it specifically for the parts to use on this build. And went this route because there is no title.

If there was a title for it, I probably would not have purchased it. Maybe if it comes down to it and someone wants the cab, I might
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 08:19 AM
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Update 9-3-14

Not much going on yet with the build.

I am trying to to a little tinkering with this 2wd engine before we tear it apart.

So far there is no spark from the coil. I had a quick spark and then nothing ever since.

There is alot of goofy stuff on this vehicle. A mechanic shop in CO did the most recent work to it. Timing kit, timing cover, head gasket, etc..

But as I dig into this further, I find that none of the grounds are hooked up, wiring is not hooked up or hooked up wrong. Just little odds and ends.

I am only trying to get it running to see what the condition of the engine is.


Back to the no spark...

I swapped in a known good igniter with the same result. So I have resorted to doing the GM ignition conversion. I am in the process of wiring that up today.

Enough talk... here are some pics.


Took the tires off. My friend is bringing up some 33's on rims that he has for this truck.
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Clean truck
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Had the kids jumper up the other igniter since some of the connections were different.
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The GM goods.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Gizler00
Its not my plan for this truck. I bought it specifically for the parts to use on this build. And went this route because there is no title.

If there was a title for it, I probably would not have purchased it. Maybe if it comes down to it and someone wants the cab, I might
Right on. That's what I figured.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 11:03 AM
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Dont think I have seen a Toyota that has not been messed up in some way. Good idea on using a GM system to test the motor. I wouldnt know how to go about doing that.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Can't wait to see the truck with 33's on it!
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 85sr5excab
Right on. That's what I figured.
Would be so cool to dd it. Squash it to the ground, throw a locker in the rear, and slap some meats on all 4 corners.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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Dont think I have seen a Toyota that has not been messed up in some way. Good idea on using a GM system to test the motor. I wouldnt know how to go about doing that.
I hear you there. Very rare occasion to find one that's not messed with.

I'm hoping this GM setup works. Maybe tomorrow.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rustED
Can't wait to see the truck with 33's on it!
Me too!!!
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizler00
I hear you there. Very rare occasion to find one that's not messed with.

I'm hoping this GM setup works. Maybe tomorrow.
I'm interested to see if you get the engine fired up,probably will purr like a kitten.
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Me too!!!
Me3 !!
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 06:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kornhuskerwizard
I'm interested to see if you get the engine fired up,probably will purr like a kitten.


Me3 !!
Hopefully it will. I am about to head down with the kids and see if we can get the thing to turn over.
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 06:15 AM
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Still not much going on today other than trying to get the 2wd fired up.

We sold a tire machine that we purchased a few years back. It was a real piece of junk china made rim clamp machine. I did not was to buy that exact one, but thats the way it went down with the funds that were provided to us.

Now that we are able to spend a little more money, and we really do not have any. we are somehow getting a Hunter rim clamp that I picked out. The district has really cut back on our funding district wide for applied technologies. We are slowly getting phased out.

Probably going to have to do a million car washes this school year to try and fund it.

Kind of sad.

Especially since there are so many students that need this type of course, or like building tech, woods, etc...
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Update 9-4-14

Some bad news on the engine. BUt good news I guess.

Here all i thought the igniter and the coil were bad, and started to wire up the GM ignition.

I decided to see if the rotor was turning and sure enough it was not.

I pulled the VC and only to find the timing chain jumped off of the crank gear. Never saw that happen before on these engines. Explains the quick spark then absolutely nothing after.

Looks like Im going to be taking it out and trying to fix it.
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 12:19 PM
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I can see the problem. Looks looks like who ever did the timing kit, installed the crank gear backwards.
Causing the gear to be too close to the block. The chain looks to be at a crazy angle. As well.
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizler00
I can see the problem. Looks looks like who ever did the timing kit, installed the crank gear backwards. Causing the gear to be too close to the block. The chain looks to be at a crazy angle. As well.
sweet
Great of the PO to do that timing chain for you
And it could have been way worse

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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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sweet Great of the PO to do that timing chain for you And it could have been way worse Sent from my iPhone using YotaTech
Yeah I know it's crazy. He took it to a shop in Colorado and they did the work

It's hard to see but if you look close you can see the cam gear. And the chain hung up and at an extreme angle.

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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 04:06 PM
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33's are on and set down. This thing is pretty stout. Can easily fit 35's. Name:  FAB63C1A-0028-4A6A-80E3-9A0CE156C53B_zpsackwet6q.jpg
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Also got the steering box nut from Chris!! Thanks buddy. It was an IfS steering nut. Totally fit on the push pull box.

Going to try and get the bed removed from this 2wd tomorrow and set onto the truck to see how it looks.

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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Having to tear it down to fix someone elses screw up is bad but at least you found the issue. My wife works in the school system as well and they keep cutting back on things. Not going to be much to cut back on soon at the rate they are going. Missouri is way behind on things. When I was in school for the military, I found out how far behind we really were when competing against others from California, Texas, and Illinios. That was a wake up call for me. They seemed like they were learning college things in high school. I played sports, but very few make it into the sports world. I feel they need to emphasize more on the fields like you mentioned earlier.

Truck is looking great and looking forward to seeing the bed on.
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 06:08 PM
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Having to tear it down to fix someone elses screw up is bad but at least you found the issue. My wife works in the school system as well and they keep cutting back on things. Not going to be much to cut back on soon at the rate they are going. Missouri is way behind on things. When I was in school for the military, I found out how far behind we really were when competing against others from California, Texas, and Illinios. That was a wake up call for me. They seemed like they were learning college things in high school. I played sports, but very few make it into the sports world. I feel they need to emphasize more on the fields like you mentioned earlier. Truck is looking great and looking forward to seeing the bed on.
Kind of frustrating that the timing chain is in the condition is it due to some carelessness. But you are right, I'm glad that I found it now.

Applied tech and schools in general are really cutting back like you said also. It really is scary.

If they take the hands on/ vocational trades away, then there will be no one going into those fields. Very sad. No one wants to listen. It's like it always falls on deaf ears, and every school wants their kids to go to a 4 year college and get an engineering degree.
While that's all fine and good, that's no reason for the vocational trades area to be forgotten about.

I can't wait to see the bed on also.
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Old Sep 5, 2014 | 07:25 AM
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Update 9-5-14

Started removing the Bed today from the 2wd pickup. It is so nice working on a truck that has minimal rust underneath. Makes the removal that much easier.

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Lots of hands to get the bed off. Surprisingly this is the lightest Toyota bed I have ever dealt with.
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Here is why you NEVER EVER use a plastic bedliner.
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Look whats underneath. Literally a wheel barrow full of rust inhibiting junk, mulch, dirt, leaves, etc...
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Luckily underneath of all that dirt and grime, the bed was still pristine. Must have caught it just in time.
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Now the best part!!! This thing looks amazing with the bed and 33's on. I want it!! Haha.

Let me know what you guys think.
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Also got the hood on from the 2wd.
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