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Seen the news the other day and looks like several fires up in your part of the country. Hope you, DC, Corey and others are not having to deal with the fires.
Terry -thanks . Around my neck of the woods we had a few brush fires close. The big fires did cause some air quality issues around Portland.
Washington got hit with much worse in my opinion than Oregon.
OK- I am at kind a a dilemma with regards to the Trekker
it has been a fun project but the truck overall is just very tired.
Frame is tweeked, it isn't square, multiple cracks in the front towards the spring hanger.
The top leaks at the rear hatch.
So- do I sell it as a running truck - complete
or Pull the suspension, tires, axles, dual cases, seats and other misc stuff and sell it as basically a shell(body & cage with an engine and transmisison)
and switch most of the stuff to the 4Runner
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OK- I am at kind a a dilemma with regards to the Trekker
it has been a fun project but the truck overall is just very tired.
Frame is tweeked, it isn't square, multiple cracks in the front towards the spring hanger.
The top leaks at the rear hatch.
So- do I sell it as a running truck - complete
or Pull the suspension, tires, axles, dual cases, seats and other misc stuff and sell it as basically a shell(body & cage with an engine and transmisison)
and switch most of the stuff to the 4Runner
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I understand the dilemma. Well, as a working truck it will bring maybe a few thousand. As a parts truck no one is likely to buy what you don't use (body), and you'll probably have to haul it to the dump. If you want the axles and drive train, go for it.
Another way to look at this is that there really are folks that would likt to pick up where you left off. It's a cool truck as is, and there are people out there that may have more energy to put into it. There are not too many of them in restorable condition out there.
Uh... one more thing to consider is that as a parts truck it represents more work! I only say this as a person that has way too many projects open. I am struggling to regain control and wondering if trips to the dump may be the only way out of some of them!
I know solid axles are all the rage, but IFS does well. They will take alot more abuse then most think. Solid axles are eaiser to lift and is about the only advantage I see over IFS. With this one going to be hauling the grand kids, I think that is going to keep the wheeling a little milder then what you have done in the past.
If you are wanting to get into extreme wheeling where you really need a solid axle, I would keep the parts for another first gen truck or sell them seperately. I would consider the time and cost to get the 2nd gen runner built back up. Cost wont be much since you have the parts but you are still going to have time into it which in realistic terms is probably a year or two.
...Solid axles are eaiser to lift and is about the only advantage I see over IFS...
solid axles have a lot more travel, ride smoother on the trail, have fewer points of failure, and easier to upgrade (gears, knuckles, lockers, etc).
however: as this is being a family-hauler, ifs is a great choice. smooth around-town performance, good handling, a tad safer, and higher static ground clearance
I understand the dilemma. Well, as a working truck it will bring maybe a few thousand. As a parts truck no one is likely to buy what you don't use (body), and you'll probably have to haul it to the dump. If you want the axles and drive train, go for it.
Another way to look at this is that there really are folks that would likt to pick up where you left off. It's a cool truck as is, and there are people out there that may have more energy to put into it. There are not too many of them in restorable condition out there.
Uh... one more thing to consider is that as a parts truck it represents more work! I only say this as a person that has way too many projects open. I am struggling to regain control and wondering if trips to the dump may be the only way out of some of them!
Realistically I know I probably wouldn't get more that $4-5K for the truck if it was complete.
I am pretty confident the shell would go fairly quickly, I i got $500 for the body I would be happy. I have two transmissions, the current engine still runs but is tired, i have another engine sitting on an engine stand supposedly with less than 70K on it.
Nice thing is the sliders are only a couple of inches short for the 4Runner so they will definitely be transferred to the 4Runner
Originally Posted by Terrys87
I know solid axles are all the rage, but IFS does well. They will take alot more abuse then most think. Solid axles are eaiser to lift and is about the only advantage I see over IFS. With this one going to be hauling the grand kids, I think that is going to keep the wheeling a little milder then what you have done in the past.
If you are wanting to get into extreme wheeling where you really need a solid axle, I would keep the parts for another first gen truck or sell them seperately. I would consider the time and cost to get the 2nd gen runner built back up. Cost wont be much since you have the parts but you are still going to have time into it which in realistic terms is probably a year or two.
Not looking to do any extreme wheeling. More of a capable weekend warrior. Crawling through rocks has been fun but it would be nice to have something that I can drive to and from a weekend trail run.
I priced getting the new spring mounts I would need and it came to about $300. Considerably cheaper than going IFS long travel and having to get an IFS third set up with gears.
I see what 85Toyman would charge to do the SAS for me, he has a nice shop and could get the work done fairly quickly.
Originally Posted by irab88
solid axles have a lot more travel, ride smoother on the trail, have fewer points of failure, and easier to upgrade (gears, knuckles, lockers, etc).
however: as this is being a family-hauler, ifs is a great choice. smooth around-town performance, good handling, a tad safer, and higher static ground clearance
Very good points for both suspensions
Originally Posted by 881stGenRunner
Have you considered doing the SAS, but making it spring under axle to keep it low?
actually I am really looking into that. I would push the axle forward slightly
Low would definitely be nice. Need to look into oil pan and axle clearance
I don't want it to come out like the typical 2nd Gen Skyscraper
Last edited by dropzone; Sep 10, 2015 at 06:42 PM.
I know solid axles are all the rage, but IFS does well. They will take alot more abuse then most think. Solid axles are eaiser to lift and is about the only advantage I see over IFS. With this one going to be hauling the grand kids, I think that is going to keep the wheeling a little milder then what you have done in the past.
If you are wanting to get into extreme wheeling where you really need a solid axle, I would keep the parts for another first gen truck or sell them seperately. I would consider the time and cost to get the 2nd gen runner built back up. Cost wont be much since you have the parts but you are still going to have time into it which in realistic terms is probably a year or two.
Having participated in both camps, I definitely agree with these sentiments. IFS have surprised me again and again in how capable they are, and in spite of their additional "failure points" they can be counted on through the worst of the worst if well-maintained.
Truth be told, SFA rigs have just as many small weaknesses that can be squared away, often with the same or sometimes greater level of difficulty on an IFS truck. If I were building up an IFS truck to wheel, I'd just replace the ball joints and CVs sight-unseen for the same peace of mind you might do the knuckles, bearings, and seals of an SFA rig.
Having participated in both camps, I definitely agree with these sentiments. IFS have surprised me again and again in how capable they are, and in spite of their additional "failure points" they can be counted on through the worst of the worst if well-maintained.
Truth be told, SFA rigs have just as many small weaknesses that can be squared away, often with the same or sometimes greater level of difficulty on an IFS truck. If I were building up an IFS truck to wheel, I'd just replace the ball joints and CVs sight-unseen for the same peace of mind you might do the knuckles, bearings, and seals of an SFA rig.
they definitely both have their pros and cons. My original intention was to keep the IFS on the 4runner but financially it makes sense to transfer goodies from the Trekker to the 4runner.
And it looks like the trekker may be going to a past owner of the trekker.
One guy is interested in getting the shell and doing a father/son project
Started pulling stuff ofF yesterday.
I am really glad I never installed my winch on this bumper, it took about 10 minutes to drill out rosette welds and cutting with a cut off wheel to get it off. I am pretty sure the winch would have peeled it off.
But it certainly served it's purpose over the years and I am hoping it will bolt up to the 4Runner since the T-G winch plate was designed for later trucks
Sliders are beat but new legs will let them have a new life on the 4Runner
My Viair takes 5 min to go from 20 to 45#....2 min is cool!
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