1jz swap
#23
The 1jz with the R154 behind it uses a pull type clutch. The r151f uses a push type clutch. This is not such a big deal the transmission really doesn't care what type of clutch is in front of it, but the problem is the input shaft on a r154 is about 1 1/8 (30mm) longer than the input shaft of a r151f.
If you read on the Marlin Crawler board the transmissions look the same, but the 1st gear is part of the input shaft and the cluster gear of the r154 will not match the r151f, so in other words you can't swap the input shaft of r154 into a r151f.
What you want to do with your truck? If you want the r151f for the low 1st. gear for serious off road use you are going to have to build a custom bell housing because the input shaft will not seat in the pilot bearing and there will be throw out bearing issues with the 1JZ stock bellhousing. However the tailhousing of the "r" series transmissions are all the same, so you can swap in the output shaft and tailhousing of a r151f on the r154 and run a gear transfer case or you can swap the output shaft and tailhousing of the r150 and use a chain transfer case, but you will not have the lower transmission gearing that is sought by most off roaders.
If you are not really concerned about the gearing of the r151f or you don't necessarily need a gear driven transfer case, then you can use the mid 90's r150 that was behind the 3.4 v6, the input shaft on this transmissions is 1 " (25.4 mm) longer than the input shaft of the r150 that was behind the 3.0 and almost the same length as a r154 about 1/8 (4.6mm) shorter. This should bolt right up to the 1jz bellhousing.
If you read on the Marlin Crawler board the transmissions look the same, but the 1st gear is part of the input shaft and the cluster gear of the r154 will not match the r151f, so in other words you can't swap the input shaft of r154 into a r151f.
What you want to do with your truck? If you want the r151f for the low 1st. gear for serious off road use you are going to have to build a custom bell housing because the input shaft will not seat in the pilot bearing and there will be throw out bearing issues with the 1JZ stock bellhousing. However the tailhousing of the "r" series transmissions are all the same, so you can swap in the output shaft and tailhousing of a r151f on the r154 and run a gear transfer case or you can swap the output shaft and tailhousing of the r150 and use a chain transfer case, but you will not have the lower transmission gearing that is sought by most off roaders.
If you are not really concerned about the gearing of the r151f or you don't necessarily need a gear driven transfer case, then you can use the mid 90's r150 that was behind the 3.4 v6, the input shaft on this transmissions is 1 " (25.4 mm) longer than the input shaft of the r150 that was behind the 3.0 and almost the same length as a r154 about 1/8 (4.6mm) shorter. This should bolt right up to the 1jz bellhousing.
Last edited by Hadmatt54; Apr 3, 2011 at 05:31 PM.
#24
Being as you are in the middle east there are probably quite a few diesels around there as well. The 1kz-te 3.0L TD uses the R151 trans and I am pretty sure the 3L 2.8L NA diesel does too along with the 2LTE. Those are some more choices for you to look at. They have the same length input shaft as the 3.0L V6 3vze. They should work just fine.
#25
Being as you are in the middle east there are probably quite a few diesels around there as well. The 1kz-te 3.0L TD uses the R151 trans and I am pretty sure the 3L 2.8L NA diesel does too along with the 2LTE. Those are some more choices for you to look at. They have the same length input shaft as the 3.0L V6 3vze. They should work just fine.
#26
i want to put a 2JZGTE in my 94 toyota pick up
i want to do a 2jzgte swap in my 94toy 2WD pickup. I know im gonna need motormounts, but does anyone know where to get a drive shaft that will fit the r154 trans i have an 8in rear with 4.56 gears? and a rear sump oil pan and strainer? Will a 7MGTE need custom motor mounts or will it fit right in ?
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