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#721
You may want to look at getting the cross-over ceramic coated to better deal with the heat. I sent mine, plus the exhaust manifolds, to Jet Hot Coatings and the coating does what it's claimed to do. After turning off the engine I can touch the manifolds after sitting for a few minutes.
#722
on mine they taped off the coupling and coated everything else. hasnt seemed to be an issue all i have on the firewall is the stock insualation and my feet a have only gotten slightly warm on very very long trips like the one from colorado back to washington were i didnt shut the truck off for 16hours. its a hell of alot better then how warm they got when the other pipe completely failed and started pumping exhaust gas directly into the floorboard and cocked the ebrake cable and speedo cable and melted the insuation on the INSIDE of the cab.
#724
BTW I noticed when the muffler shop made my exhaust they flexed my coupling real good in all directions, I guess to kind of loosen it up.
Last edited by mt_goat; Dec 30, 2008 at 08:44 AM.
#729
I just had my xover ceramic coated locally here in Vancouver for $60 CDN. He originally qouted me $80 but I wanted it shiny and they did it black so he dropped the price. In any case it was a lot less than I thought it would be.
#730
Apparently I don't have that receipt anymore which was for Jet Hot's sterling Silver coating on the cross-over and both exhaust manifolds. However, I do have a receipt for that coating on a set of '01 3.4 manifolds and that was $160.
$225 - $240 sounds like what I paid for coating the cross-over and other set of manifolds, so about $80ish for the cross-over alone is probably right. They also give a first time order discount of 10%.
$225 - $240 sounds like what I paid for coating the cross-over and other set of manifolds, so about $80ish for the cross-over alone is probably right. They also give a first time order discount of 10%.
#732
well guys unless i dont get a good offer for my swap, im out of the swap business. I Had a little misshap Friday evening and i think its time to sell my truck and get a full size. Now that i have a family and business my truck just isnt big enough and i cant justify fixing it right now.
#733
I got the crossover welded up and ready to go to the ceramic coater today. The left bank tubing was damaged worse than I had though. It was pretty thin after getting too hot, scaling over and flaking off, both inside and out. So I ended up laying down a 2nd layer of tubing over that whole side. I used .078" thick strips about 3/4" wide and 4" long. TIG was used to weld. Some strips were lapped over to the good side to provide support and help prevent future cracking.

I just bent the strips to roughly the shape I needed and tacked in one spot. Then used a hammer to form the strips more like needed. They form real nicely near a tack, so it was tack and hammer, tack and hammer.


I just bent the strips to roughly the shape I needed and tacked in one spot. Then used a hammer to form the strips more like needed. They form real nicely near a tack, so it was tack and hammer, tack and hammer.
#735
Last edited by mt_goat; Jan 13, 2009 at 02:22 PM.
#736
Dropped off the crossover at Performance Coatings (OKC) today. They had 3 different options for ceramic coatings.
The standard silver color coating which they said was good to 1400* F. I didn't ask the price since I often run higher than that temp.
A black coating which is goes a little higher (IIRC it was 1600* F) $50
A titanium coating (darkish gray color) good to 2000* F for $65, I went with this one.
They said it may take 10 days.
The standard silver color coating which they said was good to 1400* F. I didn't ask the price since I often run higher than that temp.
A black coating which is goes a little higher (IIRC it was 1600* F) $50
A titanium coating (darkish gray color) good to 2000* F for $65, I went with this one.
They said it may take 10 days.
Last edited by mt_goat; Jan 13, 2009 at 02:20 PM.
#737
Got some new exhaust gaskets and lock nuts form the dealer.

The old gaskets looked pretty good and I was tempted to reused them but they are such a PITA to get to I didn't want to risk a failure. I'm glad I did after getting them home I measured the thickness of the new versus the once used and the new ones were about .025" thicker. They are compressed or crushed as the nuts are tighten down, forming a seal. The .025" difference was not visible by eyeballing them.
The nuts were in pretty good shape too, but the locking tabs weren't working too good on a few of them and a couple were rounded a little. If one was to round off too much I'd probably have to remove the whole engine to get it off.
The part numbers seen in the pic are for a 2001, costs were $9 each for the gaskets and $1.50 each for the nuts.
The old gaskets looked pretty good and I was tempted to reused them but they are such a PITA to get to I didn't want to risk a failure. I'm glad I did after getting them home I measured the thickness of the new versus the once used and the new ones were about .025" thicker. They are compressed or crushed as the nuts are tighten down, forming a seal. The .025" difference was not visible by eyeballing them.
The nuts were in pretty good shape too, but the locking tabs weren't working too good on a few of them and a couple were rounded a little. If one was to round off too much I'd probably have to remove the whole engine to get it off.
The part numbers seen in the pic are for a 2001, costs were $9 each for the gaskets and $1.50 each for the nuts.
Last edited by mt_goat; Jan 14, 2009 at 09:00 AM.
#738
Finally got the crossover back from Performance Coatings in OKC. Looks like it was worth the wait, they did a great job:





Here's some more info on titanium exhaust coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...ptitanium.html
The standard aluminum ceramic coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...ramiccoat.html
Black Velvet exhaust coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...htcoating.html
Here's some more info on titanium exhaust coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...ptitanium.html
The standard aluminum ceramic coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...ramiccoat.html
Black Velvet exhaust coating:
http://www.electrotechcoatings.com/e...htcoating.html
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