if you look at the forest service map. You will see the refuge is to the south and east of the trail. The trail its self is the border of the refuge and anything north of the trail is open land. There will be no issues that at all, as long as our activities stay north of the trail.

 

works for me. besides you seen how long it takes for me to be legal in a refuge. I take my guns pretty well every where. I need to buy another 2 boxes of 45 acp though.

 

where you get your 45 acp at? seems like everyone is out or the price is way to high.i have 350 round, but im going shooting on sunday so i will need more before then

 

I get them up here in corning for about $22/ 50. they are high everywhere although ace in mariposa had 250 for like $100. I am buying FMJ ammo as well, not hollow point.what I have been having trouble finding is 22-250 and 30-40Craig. Also on the outs is .44 BP balls and #11 caps for my black powder. I may order up from cabelas or bass pro if I can find the powder pellets I like in the area. cost to dang much to order online with the added shipping taxes.

 

Hey ive been checking out the trail on google earth now for the past hour. so if we fill up at the nearest gas station, which may be jackson for many of us, we will still have plenty to finish the trail? or should i prepare to carry a jerry can with me?

 

i went ot wal mart last night to stock up, but they didnt have schit. so im gonna try the walmart by my work. they didnt even have 12ga. they had plenty of cheap ass 12ga. and 223(now that i wasnt looking for it) they had 2 boxes of winchester 22-250. i thought of you when i saw it. now to get some winchester 12 ga and some 45acp. and some grenades.

 

im kinda skeptical, so i'm gonna bring at least one jerry can. ill sleep betterat night knowin i have plenty o' gas

 

Yeah I plan to buy and bring 2 jerry cans but I get horrid mileage for a yota.

Yeah 45acp has been tough to get but they are starting to catch back up

 

yes if you fill up in either pollock pines or jackson, you should have enough fuel to get back.

John is correct that he get horrid milage for a yota ( those damn auto's ). so if anyone is auto bring some gas. every one else should be ok.

 

I bought the last box of 46 auto at walmart. Hahah I'm happy bout that one

 

woohoo got my back seat brackets welded up so now I just need to reupholster the seat and i am done there. just need some vinyl now. found some sweet camo vinyl as well as some wood grain vinyl but at $25 a yd.... might have to just go black

 

once you go black...... hahaha

 

hahaha Thats not really true, trust me lol
ehh never been a big fan of black vinyl, I would rather have a wood grain, leather, or camo pattern.

 

how bad of gas mileage are you guys getting that makes you think you'll need extra fuel? how long is the trail again?

 

I just got My Jerry can mount bolted in my bed. So I'll have 5 gal. Of spare gas.

 

ok got some distances for you all

start of trail to old trade post marker = 10.4 miles

start of trail to mud lake = 16.1 miles

start of trail to exit of trail = 15.7 miles

I get 18 city, 20 hwy and 16 off road. im sure most members will have no issue with gas. If they want to bring extra, it wont hurt.

 

yeah Brian, I am the one gets bad milage with the auto, although i am not sure why that would make as big of a difference as it should. i only get 16mpg at best. need to check some things like exhaust leaks and stuff like that. I may be getting slightly better now. i finally aired up to recommended and just deal with the rougher ride. Fairy are your calc's screwy 16 miles to mud lake but only 15 of total trail? are we doing the whole trail in one day camp and then go home?

 

highonpottery was that you at wal mart on antelope today?

 

ive got an auto too and i seem to get around 14 or 15 on the trail. im thinking about building something like this to carry my jerry cans for the trail

 

My distances were calculated using the ruler button on google earth. If we can make it to the lake in one day, it would be good to place to camp. If we do not make it the pre run will show use the best camping spots for the final run. The reason the lake is further then the end of the trail. The turn to go to mud lake is about a mile from the end of the trail. you can check it out on google maps or google earth.