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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 05:30 PM
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Co4rj 2005

Due to the tremendous success of the last four tries, a sincere desire to meet with old friends as well as making new ones in the mountains and because we can all use an excuse to tell stories around campfires, it is my pleasure to bring to you, CO4RJ 2005. This will mark the fifth consecutive year Toyota enthusiasts, mostly owners of 3rd Generation 4Runners, have assembled in the mountains of Colorado to match machine against terrain with friends old and new.

There are some changes this year, and some things will thankfully remain the same. This event has, in the past, catered mostly to 3rd Gen owners. At the second annual Jambo, only two people did not own 3rd Gen Runners. That has fluctuated in the past, but should continue as the norm. What follows is a brief overview of how things will be happening.

Who: Toyota 4wd owners from the southwest, Toyota owners across the nation and Brent, who once was a Toyota owner, listed in the order of priority.

What: An informal three day wheeling event

Where: Buena Vista, Colorado

When: August 19-21st are reserved for formal wheeling, plan on arriving Thursday the 18th after 5 p.m. MT and leaving Sunday night the 21st or Monday morning before 11 a.m. MT.

Why: To enjoy trails, build camaraderie, and used that little lever in the center console, again in order of priority

Steve finally got this on the web for me. Take a look http://www.sonoransteel.com/Colorado...boree_2005.htm

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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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I am riding on the coat tails of hard work done for the last 4 years. I hope this year will continue in the tradition, but set a new precedent. I also hope that next year we can get out of Buena Vista.

Tentative Trail Schedule is as follows:

Biggest Rocks: Holy Cross above the City, Iron Chest, Chinamen's. Minesweeper may be added for dillution and these are in order.

Medium Rocks: Wheeler Lake, Taylor Pass, Grizzly Lake, Hancock/Tomichi Pass. Others may be added depending on numbers

Scenic Rocks: Weary Man/Resolution Gulch, Mount Antero with offshoots, Some other cool one.

If you have other trails that I do not know about or you would like to do, send me a note and we will work on it.

Stockers will not be allowed on anything but scenic trails. The biggest rocks trails require no open diffs.

Registration is mandatory. I will take PayPal for camping at a per person per night cost when the site is on-line. Parking priority will be given to those in the group who arrived earliest, others will have to park up top and walk, crawl, or hitch rides.

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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Thanks for stepping up and getting this event rolling! Anna & I are excited! If you need help let us know!!!

John & Anna
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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Attendance at this event is voluntary. Participants waive any liability, expressed or implied, to Adrian Flygt, and his heirs, associates or rivals, Yotatech, it's owners, users, or other staff. Everyone should be in attendance with a Toyota 4wd and a good attitude.

This is meant to be a somewhat organized gathering of Colorado residents, regional friends and anyone else committed to showing up and having a good time.

Each day will start with a driver's meeting at 8 and departure before 8:30. When we pull out of the parking lot each morning, it is my goal to come back that day. We will keep moving, but I want to allow each and every person to enjoy the trail. This means eat when hungry, sleep when tired and leak when full. There are no guarantees for return for supper time, so bring eats with you and don't sweat waiting for people not wheeling with you. We will all get together around the fire eventually.
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 07:59 PM
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Good job with the clarifications Adrian and thank you for putting this together.

You know I'll be there. It'll probably be just me and my side kick. She loves to wheel and hang out with "Mr. Cheese" and that "Funny Man".
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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If you want, you could add Mosquito to the Scenic trails, and do a loop. Do it on the same day as Wheeler, and the scenicer's can follow almost all the way there, so folks don't get lost. Then just come out in leadville, and roll back to Buena Vista. St. Elmo is right there, but that is again, scenic (i think).

For the Biggest rocks, you say no opens, but do you need full blown lockers, or will and LSD do? Also, Chinaman needs sliders, no?

Lastly, is the cost per person, or per vehicle? Just want to make sure. Thanks!

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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Oh yeah, and how many people have shown up in the past?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 01:20 AM
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The last one I was at, 2003, there were over 30 vehicles that showed.

Negotiations have begun with the wife for Moab and CO4RJ. I may have to break out the big guns and have you, Steve and Jim pester her about us going to one of these events.

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:46 AM
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I sort of think no open diff'd rigs will be protected. I am trying to up requirements so we can all do all the optional stuff and keep moving. For instance, you could do Chinamen's with a rear locker and bypass the two optionals only doing Whale Rock and Shep's Revenge, but I bet at least half the trucks will have a rear locker.

In the group site, it will be per person per night. There is no other cost for attending, just the cost to stay in the big campsite with the rest.

John, thanks for the offer. At this point, all I am hoping you can do is make a cool sticker/shirt design as you have done in the past.

Lance, come on out.

Elise is hilarious. The DVD's in the tent make me laugh.

2003 was the biggest. Hopefully this will be big again, I think we have sometihng for everyone.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:52 AM
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[QUOTE=AxleIke]

For the Biggest rocks, you say no opens, but do you need full blown lockers, or will and LSD do? Also, Chinaman needs sliders, no?

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I think that he is looking for full blown lockers (depending on driver's experience). The reason for this is that many of the trails are "full day" events with "over gunned" trucks (with out issues on the trail). I would not run Chinaman with out sliders.

Adrain, Thanks for organizing this- let us know if you need help. Corporate sponser ORS? I here that you may know a few people over there. Are a few from that group planning on attending?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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Okay, cool. Just wanted to clarify, so as not to make any mistakes. Also, how do we make reservations? Obviously we need to send money to Flygtenstein, but how and where?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Adrian,

It is great to see you stepping up and organizing this event. I have to say I doubt I'll make the 3600 mile round trip just to get there and back, but I hope to work something out. Maybe somebody will invite me along as a co-driver. Hint to all my Colorado friends, including, but not just you, Adrian.

Like HaveBlue, my last Jamboree was 2003. It was a lot of fun, but I drove from Kentucky, not Northern Virginia. The difference being Kentucky is a mere 2400 mile round trip whereas McLean, Virginia (outskirts of Washington, D.C.) is a 3600 mile round trip.

Who knows.... I would love to be there again!

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Glad your organizing this for us this year Adrian. Brown and I will be available to help out. We just reserved our RV (pop-up) sites opposite the tent sites.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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Hey guys, this looks like it will be an awesome time and would like to join. However, I have no wheeling experience what so ever and my truck is basically stock (should be lifted by then though). So would I have any problems as long as I keep on the scenic routes? Hopefully I'll be able to meet some of the other Colorado wheelers beforehand, but if not this would be a most excellent opportunity for me.
Austin

Also what is the campground's/parks policy on dogs as well as beverages?
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:08 PM
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You'll be fine on all the scenic trails.

I posted on the other thread talking about this, but the selection process is set up to maximize trails completed, and IMO a very good idea. Some of the medium trails can also be done by stock vehicles, like Wheeler Lake, but it takes longer, and if you have 10 trucks, it takes a REALLY long time.

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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tacopie
Hey guys, this looks like it will be an awesome time and would like to join. However, I have no wheeling experience what so ever and my truck is basically stock (should be lifted by then though). So would I have any problems as long as I keep on the scenic routes? Hopefully I'll be able to meet some of the other Colorado wheelers beforehand, but if not this would be a most excellent opportunity for me.
Austin

Also what is the campground's/parks policy on dogs as well as beverages?
My rig was stock except for a lift and sliders for the CO4RJ 2003 and I had a blast. You will be fine on the "Scenic Rocks" trails. I suggest trying to tag along one day with someone on a "Biggest Rocks" trail to get the experience. You won't regret not driving one day.

As far as dogs and you will be fine bringing both. As long as you plan to share .

I hope to meet you there. I'll be the guy with my 4 year old daughter, she'll be spotting for me this trip .
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Also what is the campground's/parks policy on dogs as well as beverages?
from their website:
Pet allowed at campsite for no additional cost. Well behaved dog on leash outdoors.

As far as beverages ...
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by tacopie
Hey guys, this looks like it will be an awesome time and would like to join. However, I have no wheeling experience what so ever and my truck is basically stock
Flygtenstein asked me to help w/ the scenic/mod trail selection. My goal was to pick trails and the days they are run on as to maximize enjoyment for EVERYONE, even nOObs and stockers.

Fri we will run the Resolution Mt/Wearyman Gulch loop off of Shrine Pass Road. This is an excellent trail to see what your rig and you can do. At the summit of Ptarmagin Pass and the Summit of Resolution Mt there are DROP DEAD views of The Mount of the Holy Cross and the Holy Cross Wilderness. This loop was selected as there are no shelf roads, no large rocks and water crossings are within the limits of a stocker. There are, however, steep loose sections that will test the driving skills of a novice. If all goes well there are plenty of side roads for exploring.

Hancock/Tomichi Passes are set for Sat. This will give those with a new found confidence, gained on Res/Weary, a chance to run with more expirenced drivers with mod. built rigs. Hancock/Tomichi also keeps people "local" so every one will be back in BV for the pot-luck Sat. night. If all goes well on the trip and there are no hold up's (esp on the up-hill side of Hancock) there may be time for a side trip to the historic Alpine Tunnel.

Events for Sun TBA.

Originally Posted by Mojo_Risin
from their website:
Pet allowed at campsite for no additional cost. Well behaved dog on leash outdoors.
I see on their map that they now have an off leash exercise area.


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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:34 PM
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Long day.

If you bring beer, the only rule I know is you have to share.

Dogs are good if you pick up the poop and keep them leashed. All of the dogs I have met at past CO4RJ's have been well behaved.

People will not be allowed to get in over your heads. The scenic trails and a couple middle trails will take stockers. Brian is helping me out with that.

The big rock trails mean no open diffs, protection and experience. Jim is the poster child for climbing the ladder.

The Creek spanked three well built trucks last year, thuogh they were all IFS. The year before one rig with only one locker made it, the rest of us had two lockers, it changes every year.

As for Wheeler, I know dually's who have done it.

At this point, to gauge interest, e-mail me the following:
1. Rig
2. Number of lockers
3. Experience
4. Number of people attending as well as number of days in camp.
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Old Apr 13, 2005 | 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by tacopie
Hey guys, this looks like it will be an awesome time and would like to join. However, I have no wheeling experience what so ever and my truck is basically stock (should be lifted by then though). So would I have any problems as long as I keep on the scenic routes? Hopefully I'll be able to meet some of the other Colorado wheelers beforehand, but if not this would be a most excellent opportunity for me.
Austin

Also what is the campground's/parks policy on dogs as well as beverages?

You will be just fine on all the scenic trails with or without a lift.

You should go. They are a lot of fun.

-Sherpa
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