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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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>Check this thread for more info on the common rail diesel from Toyota >and Mercedes and the MB engineers planning on low-sulfur diesel fuel being >available in the US in late 2006.

you guys don't even have low sulfur diesel in the states? i'm in canada,
and every place i go to fill up my 84 2L, the pump says it's low sulfur fuel,
< 0.05 % sulfur. seems like a pretty lame excuse that the oil companies
can't even get low sulfur fuel to the states, but just north of the 49th
they can? i guess we can thank the liberal gouvernement up here
for their environmental concerns..

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Old Mar 27, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Yessum, I definitely would!
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 09:51 AM
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Absolutely.... with gas prices hitting the roof, fuel economy of a diesel is enough of a reason just in itself. Not to mention the awesome torque they put out for towing. Anyone that thinks they are loud and stinky should definately take another look at some of the new turbodiesels out there. Loud and stinky diesels are fast becoming a thing of the past.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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In a heartbeat.

Folks, the VW V10 diesel Touareg weighs 1000 lbs more than my 4th Gen, acceleration is about the same (7 to 7.5 seconds 0 to 60) but is EPA rated at 23 mpg on the highway. The 4th gen V8 is rated at 19 mpg highway.

Give me a nice turbodiesel, a bio-diesel conversion, and I'm all set.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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Yup, count me in. I will would easly become a diesel head!

Technology has gone a long way. Direct cylinder injection is old but, it's new now because of the electronic meater system. This lowers the comprssion from 22-24:1 to 17-19:1. Lower compression equals longer life and better turbo capabilities.

It's all good.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Robinhood150
If toyota offered a diesal version of the 4runner or truck (in anyof the generations) would you have chosen it over a gasoline engine?

Just wondering what the market looks like, especially now that the jeep liberty is supposed to come out with a diesel for the US.
I would definitely consider buying a diesel. As a matter of fact, I may trade in my wifes 3.7v6 Liberty for a 2.8 CRD. 160 HP and 295 ft.lbs. No wonder the Wrangler crowd is asking for the 2.8 CRD.
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by calamaridog
I would definitely consider buying a diesel. As a matter of fact, I may trade in my wifes 3.7v6 Liberty for a 2.8 CRD. 160 HP and 295 ft.lbs. No wonder the Wrangler crowd is asking for the 2.8 CRD.
I've already been down to the Jeep dealer asking about it. There's a pretty long waiting list already. I guess a lot of folks are ready to get 40% farther down the road on their dollar.
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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since toyota is more a follower than a leader these days(at least in the US) i wouldn't be suprised if they began having a diesel motor option in their cars and trucks here if chrysler does it first and has success
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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The diesel Jeep will be a success...As I said, the local dealer already has a waiting list. The reason they were a success in the 70's is because of fuel costs. That's also one of the reasons they died out in the 80's...Gas got cheap again...also GM's cheap-a$$ed diesel gave all diesels a bad rep among those who didn't know better.

Who wouldn't want a 4Runner that got over 25mpg?
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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Diesel

Over here in blighty, you find that most of the vehicles are the Japanese Import version of the 4Runner (Hilux Surf) and yes, majority of them are Diesel (some with Turbos).

The vehicles are mainly 2.4 or 3.0 of mainly 2nd and 3rd Generation
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 05:33 AM
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my friend had one of the 3rd generation turbo-diesel, and sad that it's the best suv ever built!
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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gizmo
Over here in blighty, you find that most of the vehicles are the Japanese Import version of the 4Runner (Hilux Surf) and yes, majority of them are Diesel (some with Turbos).

The vehicles are mainly 2.4 or 3.0 of mainly 2nd and 3rd Generation
All 2nd & 3rd Gen Diesel models are turboed
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gizmo
Over here in blighty, you find that most of the vehicles are the Japanese Import version of the 4Runner (Hilux Surf) and yes, majority of them are Diesel (some with Turbos).

The vehicles are mainly 2.4 or 3.0 of mainly 2nd and 3rd Generation
With your salt air and wet weather, I'll bet the bodies rot before the engines give out. And idea what the front clip from a 3.0 Turbo Intercooled Diesel would run? Manual tranny of course.
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Old Jul 26, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Actually not all 2 gen's are turbo. I've owned two without OEM turbo.
All 3 gen indeed have an OEM turbo.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 4runner4ever
Actually not all 2 gen's are turbo. I've owned two without OEM turbo.
All 3 gen indeed have an OEM turbo.
OK I sit corrected

I've never heard of a non-turbo 2nd Gen Diesel Surf, other than those which had later engine changes to, for example, the 2.8 hilux motor, but am unaware of such engines being fitted by the factory to the Surf.

Which engines were in yours?

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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I had a few Hiluxes with the 2L, not 4R's. I swapped the 3VZE from the 4R for a 7M-GE.
My Toyotamanual (RM158E from '89) states that the used engine type's are: 4Y-C, 22R, 2L, 3L and not even the 2L-T yet. That come on '90 I believe but I bet most people would have retrofitted their 2L with a turbo from a wreck so no one would ever notice the difference. Most have the 3VZE anyway over here, diesel 4R's are quit rare. I only have seen 1 or 2 in a decade or so.
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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Besides being perfect for torque and diesel technology is so good nowadays, did anyone bring up the point that you can run on old cooking oil with diesel?

Sorry, not going to read through 6 pages to find out
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Old Jul 28, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstToy
Besides being perfect for torque and diesel technology is so good nowadays, did anyone bring up the point that you can run on old cooking oil with diesel?

Sorry, not going to read through 6 pages to find out
Like it says in my signature, I run mine on a mix of a vegoil and DinoDiesel
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Old Jul 29, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Hi all,

This is my first post here in Yotatech, altought if been reading for months.

I'm from Spain, and I own a 94' 4Runner (A 2nd gen), which has a 3.0 Turbo Diesel engine.

Here in Spain there are only a few 4Runner's, and they're 50/50 3.0 diesel or 3.0 gas.

I think that in the US, gas is intented to be in cars and diesel in buses or trailers... Here there's quite price difference between gas and diesel, aproximately 0.35€ per liter.
People has the tendency of buying diesel trucks, because usually the gas engines offered are large gas eaters, and here gas is more expensive (I think) that in the US. (1 liter of gas costs aproximately 1€).

Another subject, here 4Runner's are a bit different. I have the spare tire underneath the trunk.
4Runner's where sold with 2 tire sizes. Mine with 215R15 and the SR5 one year later than mine with 265/70R15. I've mine with fender flares and 265/70R15.

Here in Spain sucks... You must approve officially all modifications you've done to the truck... And this means money... If you change your tires to bigger ones, pay, if you lift de truck more than 5 cm, pay, this really sucks...
So imagine, a SAS for me is a dream, it's easier buying a new truck with solid axles than modifying mine.

To officialy approve a mod, you usually have to present an engineer project, you must do tests in official labs, etc. etc... This sucks...

I die of envy when seeing your trucks

Excuse my poor English :/

David
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Old Aug 21, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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My pick is for a diesel; assuming we are talking about a modern design. If for no other reason then to make your own fuel. We have folks here in my town making bio-diesel for sale at under a $1/gallon. Check out www.makeyourownbiodiesel.com. And with respect to parts and costs, they will last longer. Example, I've seen garbage truck engines with over 1,000,000 miles on the same injecter pump.
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