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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 02:58 AM
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Stump pulling: 1st gear or reverse?

Howdy folks,

I am clearing our land a bit. I have some cedar trees.
I have sheared them off about 2 feet off the ground
They are maybe 6 inches in diameter.
I have dug around the roots a bit.
I want to try and pull them out using a chain and s-hooks.
Is this crazy?
If not, where should I best attach the chain?
Hook to the front and slowly pull them out in reverse?
Or hook to the rear and slowly pull in 1st gear?

Thanks.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 03:01 AM
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never pull anything out in reverse. Your using the coast side of your gears in reverse, which are weaker and you can screw them up. So go in 1st.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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Have someone stand a few hundred feet away and video it.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:13 AM
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Definitely 4WD Low, 1 st gear.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by crolison
never pull anything out in reverse. Your using the coast side of your gears in reverse, which are weaker and you can screw them up. So go in 1st.
good point. your reverse gear is a spur gear and the others are helical gears. use 1st.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:22 AM
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Also, should something happen and the apparatus that you are using to tug it with.....slips, you won't have to replace your windshield. Also it's a matter of physics. You have more torque available to your rear wheels (unless you have a locking center diff) than the front. The weight of the buried stump will transfer to the wheels closest to the stump. So make the closest ones, the ones with the most available torque, as the furthest wheels will actually want to lift and break traction.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 05:24 AM
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Can you roll down your back glass? Or open it? or even remove it? That way if your chain slips, or breaks, it will dent body, but not shatter glass.....its up to you...
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:26 AM
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when you start pulling, make sure to put some kind of "energy absorber" like a heavy blanket or something on that chain...it's the same thing guys do for winching, so incase the cable/chain breaks, it should suppress some of that potentially lethal energy...
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:27 AM
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When I had to pull out a stubborn cemented pole I dug around it a little then trickled a garden hose into hole overnight and in morning it pulled right out but I didn't know about the reverse and since the hook was there that's what I did but since I soaked the hole it slid right out.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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i think someone on here posted a while ago that they tried to do the same thing...well it worked , but the stump flew out and smoked the rear of the vehicle pretty good..so you may want to use the longest strap possible



EDIT: Here ya go... https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f147...2006-a-100469/

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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:43 AM
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i thought reverse was the gear that had the most torque? hmm... careful not to let that tree hit the yota!
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by jason191918
good point. your reverse gear is a spur gear and the others are helical gears. use 1st.
Another good point

I was talking about the ring and pinion, for reversing your using the weaker side of it, which is not good.

Just pet her in 1st and 4 low, and dig out the stump a lot. I had a stump in my yard and i was tempted to pull with my old rover, but i just dug the crap out of it and used my lawn mower.
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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too bad you cut them off so short. If they had been long 4-5' you would get a lot more leverage to use with the chain towards the top of the stump
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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I did this with the tundra. You cut the trees a little short. I found that if you leave about 4 ft of trunk, it makes it alot easier. dig out around the roots as much as you can. Use the chain saw and cut any large roots that are clearly visible.
I then used two tow strap (not chain) around the trunk and tied it to the back of the hitch. Then slowly pull forward, and slowly give gas. No jerky movements.
it's actually pretty fun.
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 04:01 AM
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1st try not successful, gotta dig/cut more roots

Well, we had called a company to come give us an estimate to clear soem of the land to include removing the stumps of the cedars we cut.
But they guy never showed so we started digging out and cutting roots on the smaller ones. Good cardio exercise!

I hooked the 4R up to one that was maybe not ready so she never even budged. Truck is fine. Gotta dig and cut more roots....
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by crolison
I was talking about the ring and pinion, for reversing your using the weaker side of it, which is not good.
On your truck, this is more true than his. On the "pretacos", the rear is stronger going forward, the front diff is stronger in reverse. As the front is the weaker one to start with, I can see the argument for doing it in reverse... I would still do it in first though
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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you ever try pulling a stump out with a high lift? works like a charm and very "non-lethal"...you gotta dig enough to get a chain through the roots under the stump, cut as many of the big roots as possible, then high lift away. amazing how much power one has. the only issue i've had is having them fall over if you dont get the chain in the right spot or if one side of the roots break free earlier than another in which case (if you spot it) you back off and reposition the chain. if you dont spot it and it gets ready to fall, you take a step back, no biggie.

well, good look. pulling stumps out with the 4runner sure sounds like more fun, but if you gotta dig a bunch anyway this might be a safer mode.

ps...don't die...
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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Stumping Score: 90 Toyota, 4. Cedars, 0. Yeeee-haww!

I finally got it together today!
A nice sized pick-mattock, a bunch of elbow grease and a nice tow-chain.
The 2 days of rain helped a lot also...

Maybe I kick some more stump butts tomorrow!
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