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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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driving in 4wd with no rear ds

I mean, other than just having front wheel drive, will there be any problems? i screwed up my rear driveshaft on a rock, and need to take it about 30 miles to get it balanced. Id put it in my crx but it doesnt fit. so my question is, will it harm the transfer case or anything?
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:08 AM
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I've driven 20+ miles in 4wd with no rear drive-shaft a couple of times. I experienced no adverse effects.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:25 AM
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Take turns as wide as you can unless you have Manual Hubs. If your truck has front ADD then you run the risk of binding your front drivetrain on full turn.

You'll be alright.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 12:57 AM
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I do have manual hubs. So it will be alright then? thats good. was worried about things like binding up the transfer case like you can driving on dry pavement in 4wd? I wouldnt think it would hurt anything since theres nothing back there to cause any resistance but i just wanted to confirm, thanks guys.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Yeah, binding occurs when the front and rear wheels are turning at a different rate. Like in a tight turn. With no rear driveline you won't have to worry about binding.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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ChickenLover - the issue revolves the ADD unit trying to act like it's "locked" and the different speed of the front tires when turning on a hard surface creates the front drivetrain to bind. I think you knew what you were talking about but it came out all wrong at 2 in the morning

I'm an idiot though. The issue of manual hubs is nonexistent since you need to have them locked to get moving :pat:

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 04:05 AM
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You can drive it around the country and you will not hurt a thing even with ADD. The only problem would be if you had a locker. A limited slip would not cause a problem. I have driven my truck without a rear driveshaft before with no problems.

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 04:42 AM
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Drove my truck a good distance home after a ujoint blew out on the freeway (rear DS)

no probs =) .. just had to go slow.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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i guess i dont under stand exactly how add works or something then because i thought it had nothing to do with "locking" the differential? when im off road i can spin one front tire all day while the other is stationary and nothing bad happens. this is just like an open differential and thus i cant see any binding happening on road...
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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no binding. front is open. theres no connection between rear & tcase. i just wouldnt gun it from a launch or anything like that...not sure how 7.5" of ifs ring gear would like it...
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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No issues at all, I've driven 100's of miles in FWD, works fine. With an open diff, it is no different than a FWD passenger car. If you have a limited slip, it'll pull the steering wheel harder and with a locker, take it easy in turns. Best to try and coast through turns or at least do not get on and off the gas while turning.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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The front diff is open just like the rear... do you bind the driveline when in normal RWD? The binding happens because the transfer case is "locked" and the two driveshafts want to go different speeds.

You're not going to hurt anything.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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The front diff is open just like the rear... do you bind the driveline when in normal RWD? The binding happens because the transfer case is "locked" and the two driveshafts want to go different speeds.

You're not going to hurt anything.
thats what i thought. glad to know im not crazy
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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i guess i dont under stand exactly how add works or something then because i thought it had nothing to do with "locking" the differential?
It disengages the passengers side front axle from turning. Kind of like locking the drivers hub but leaving the other hub unlocked.

You can leave out the rear driveshaft for good and you will not have any problems. It is an open diff just like a FWD car. Nothing will happen.

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesD
It disengages the passengers side front axle from turning. Kind of like locking the drivers hub but leaving the other hub unlocked.

You can leave out the rear driveshaft for good and you will not have any problems. It is an open diff just like a FWD car. Nothing will happen.

James
exactly as i thought. i thought maybe i had missed something big with everyone saying its going to bind up on sharp turns and such...
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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ADD has nothing to do with it. Your "Differential" will allow the tires to "Differentiate" in a turn and not cause binding. Unless of course you are locked, as previously mentioned. I wouldn't go fast as I think you will get some strange vibrations. I could be wrong, but I don't think the front is balanced out as well as a FWD car. I notice vibrations on the freeway in 2wd with the hubs locked. You can feel the resistance, I imagine some of this would be apparent in 4wd/no rear DS.
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 05:16 PM
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My bad for this morning's response. I must not have had enough caffiene in the system, yet.

Front Open diff + no rear drift shaft = OK to drive!
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