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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 04:54 PM
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Where can I find an after market 84 toytoa pickup solid axle at?
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:02 PM
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Trail gear or Diamond.

http://www.diamondaxle.com/index.htm

http://www.trail-gear.com/pickup-and...-axle-housings

More options if you go one ton.

http://currieenterprises2.reachlocal.net/

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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what does IFS stand for?
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:19 PM
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Independent front suspension.

What do I win?

But seriously.. Read the FAQ posted at the top of the forum and/or google your next question before you post it.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:22 PM
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Independent front suspension.

What do I win?

But seriously.. Read the FAQ posted at the top of the forum and/or google your next question before you post it.
alright but im not any good with this axle stuff.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:24 PM
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https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...tickys-242840/
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:30 PM
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none of that tells me if ineed a axle width of ifs or +2 on trail-gear for my rear axle and +3 or +5 for my front axle
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:42 PM
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+3 front axle is IFS rear axle width.

They call the rear axle in 86-95 trucks and 4runners an IFS rear axle, not because its independent, but its the axle that came on IFS trucks( IFS in the front) , which is 3" wider than factory solid axles. If you bought the TG axle, you would want the +3 width to mach your current rear axle.

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:46 PM
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+3 front axle is IFS rear axle width.

They call rear axle an IFS rear axle, not because its independent, but its the axle that came on IFS trucks( IFS in the front) , which is 3" wider than factory solid axles. If you bought the TG axle, you would want the +3 width to mach your current rear axle.


so for the rear one i would want the IFS one?
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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yes? Why do you need a rear axle?

And for the front, why not just use a 83-85 toyota axle?
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 05:53 PM
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yes? Why do you need a rear axle?

And for the front, why not just use a 83-85 toyota axle?
i want the rear to match the front and i dont know where to get and 83 or 84 axle
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Your rear is already IFS with, so getting the +3 front will match that.

Read this, then go over to the solid axle section and read around, then go over to the build up section and read around. Start doing some searching to see how you want to build your truck before you drop 10 grand on axles.

http://forum.ih8mud.com/79-95-toyota...-thread-2.html

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Originally Posted by rattlewagon
+3 front axle is IFS rear axle width.

They call the rear axle in 86-95 trucks and 4runners an IFS rear axle, not because its independent, but its the axle that came on IFS trucks( IFS in the front) , which is 3" wider than factory solid axles. If you bought the TG axle, you would want the +3 width to mach your current rear axle.
I agree with rattlewagon, just wanted to throw out another option. You could find yourself a junkyard SFA and rebuild it +3" wider yourself to match your IFS rearend (without running wheel spacers). That would save you around $3000+ over buying TG's front axel. I'm not trying to confuse you or contradict anything that rattlewagon has told you, just offering a cheaper alternative. I did it to my 4runner and it's in my build thread, there's alot of other guys running the same setup, and you end up with better brakes over a stock 83-85' SFA as an added bonus. If your interested I can offer more info, good luck!

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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I agree with rattlewagon, just wanted to throw out another option. You could find yourself a junkyard SFA and rebuild it +3" wider yourself to match your IFS rearend (without running wheel spacers). That would save you around $3000+ over buying TG's front axel. I'm not trying to confuse you or contradict anything that rattlewagon has told you, just offering a cheaper alternative. I did it to my 4runner and it's in my build thread, there's alot of other guys running the same setup, and you end up with better brakes over a stock 83-85' SFA as an added bonus. If your interested I can offer more info, good luck!


i just dont know where to start or what to do.
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by rustEDyota83
I agree with rattlewagon, just wanted to throw out another option. You could find yourself a junkyard SFA and rebuild it +3" wider yourself to match your IFS rearend (without running wheel spacers). That would save you around $3000+ over buying TG's front axel. I'm not trying to confuse you or contradict anything that rattlewagon has told you, just offering a cheaper alternative. I did it to my 4runner and it's in my build thread, there's alot of other guys running the same setup, and you end up with better brakes over a stock 83-85' SFA as an added bonus. If your interested I can offer more info, good luck!

whem you guys talk about width are you talking about how long the axle is or how thick it is?
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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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i just dont know where to start or what to do.
I'd take rattlewagons advice and do a bunch of research. Find some trucks in this forum under the SAS section that are similiar to what you want to achieve with your truck and research it till you understand the lingo and what's involved both workwise and money wise in building your truck. Even if you go the way I did and put together your own SAS from scratch it's expensive. I might of saved $600 over buying TG's IFS eliminator kit, but I still have alot of time and money into it.

At the very least your first step would be to find an 83' to 85' front axel, they're on craigslist all the time. I would stick with those years because they came with 4.10 gears, I beleive the earlier 79-82' were 3.91 gears, assuming they came with a manuel transmission.

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whem you guys talk about width are you talking about how long the axle is or how thick it is?
yeah the width is the length measured across the axel from the mounting surface that your wheel bolts on to, across to the mounting surface on the other side if that makes sense, probably not the best description, but I dont know how else to phrase it, lol... Anyway the solid front axel trucks are 3" narrow than the rear axel in your truck as rattlewagon mentioned.

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Old Jan 17, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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what do i have to do to an 84 solid axle so that i dont have to use wheel spacers?
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what do i have to do to an 84 solid axle so that i dont have to use wheel spacers?
the quick explanation: you take off the straight axel wheel hubs and use the wheel hubs from your IFS frontend. The bearings are the same, but the offset is different, by using the ifs wheel hubs you gain the 3" of width and thus matches the width of your rearend. This is the quick version, there is a little more to it, you need to replace your solid axel brake rotor with slotted brake rotors from a 85' landcruiser ($50 at O'reilly's and cheaper than wheel spacers) and you reuse your ifs brake calipers, but to me it is well worth it, you get the 3" of width plus better/more reliable front brakes. I have a write up on it in my build thread, I'll try to find the page for you if your still interested.

*EDIT* Here is a link to my build thread where I started rebuilding the front axel, in post #84 it shows mounting the ifs wheel hubs to the new landcruiser rotors ,in the pic that's the stock ifs wheel hub original to my 4runner, and that's what gains you the additional 3" of width (an inch and a half on each side) when installed due to the offset being different than the stock sfa wheel hub, hopefully that makes sense, lol... https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...73/index4.html

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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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the quick explanation: you take off the straight axel wheel hubs and use the wheel hubs from your IFS frontend. The bearings are the same, but the offset is different, by using the ifs wheel hubs you gain the 3" of width and thus matches the width of your rearend. This is the quick version, there is a little more to it, you need to replace your solid axel brake rotor with slotted brake rotors from a 85' landcruiser ($50 at O'reilly's and cheaper than wheel spacers) and you reuse your ifs brake calipers, but to me it is well worth it, you get the 3" of width plus better/more reliable front brakes. I have a write up on it in my build thread, I'll try to find the page for you if your still interested.

*EDIT* Here is a link to my build thread where I started rebuilding the front axel, in post #84 it shows mounting the ifs wheel hubs to the new landcruiser rotors ,in the pic that's the stock ifs wheel hub original to my 4runner, and that's what gains you the additional 3" of width (an inch and a half on each side) when installed due to the offset being different than the stock sfa wheel hub, hopefully that makes sense, lol... https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...73/index4.html






thanks man your page was alot of help.

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