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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 12:40 PM
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Droop pics.


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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 02:22 PM
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I have the 14" 100LB coils, they are nice, smoothed out the ride and im not sure how well they flex, i havent gotten out to look at them while wheelin. Is it bad that i have coils and blocks
Blocks are not a good way to lift a vehicle and should not be used, they cause axle wrap and that in turn can cause things to break.
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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hey Junker- That overload is wanting to be turned around, cut in half, bent a touch upwards, and hard-clamped to the other leafs
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Old Feb 6, 2011 | 07:12 PM
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eaglescout- I just noticed that your rear pack has something going on.....this add-a-leaf is probably limiting travel and is causing a stiffer ride, too. It needs to come out.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 12:33 PM
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alright so i got the jack out and started jacking up the body and opposite sides of the axle and here are some measurements i came up with:

all measurements are from the frame rail to the top of the leaf just behind the little rubber knob...

the first number is Pass Side second number is D. Side

Full extension
w/ shock: 12.5" 12.75"
w/o shock: 13.5" 13.75"

Full Comp.
w/ shock: 8.5" 8.5"
w/o shock: 8.5" 8.5"

anyone have measurements of full droop and compression w/o add-a-leafs?

the shocks are Gabriels, never heard of em before... Pro Ryder is the model...cant get a full model number off of them.

ZUK: i was looking at that, didnt know what it was but i noticed that the pass. side add-a-leaf C bracket was completely loose and had worked its way all the way down to the axle...kinda interesting...also must be my rattle lol. so if i take out the add-a-leaf i will in turn get more droop correct? which would mean i can go over a bigger obstacle and keep both wheels on the ground...i could use that.

i have some pictures for a little clarification:
passenger side leaf pack, circled in red is the bracket for the add-a-leaf:


drivers side leaf pack, notice where the add-a-leaf bracket is:


full flex: i jacked up one side until the opposite side tire was off the ground...





shock:


so first i will pop out that add-a-leaf and see what difference it makes

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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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wow.....that's the prob. Take those top 2 aal's off and you'll be good to go.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ZUK
hey Junker- That overload is wanting to be turned around, cut in half, bent a touch upwards, and hard-clamped to the other leafs
Let me guess..... you've got a write up on how to make a factory overload on a 1st gen 4runner into some improved flex anti axle wrap half-leaf?
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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haha he does...

and i quote:

"I assume you still have the stock leafpacks with the factory overload springboard so if you were to do something like what I did here https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...f-leaf-225251/ then you might be pleasantly surprised with the results. Food for thought...
ZUK"
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Junkers88
Let me guess..... you've got a write up on how to make a factory overload on a 1st gen 4runner into some improved flex anti axle wrap half-leaf?
Yep You're the guinea pig.
.....and you too, eaglescout

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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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alright AALs are off...
before:

After:

and side views: before:

After:


it seems to have a little more droop but it cant be more than an inch because thats the max for the shocks...rides a heckuvalot better though...heres some pictures of it crossed up...poser pics of course:




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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:10 PM
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That doesn't look too bad for stock packs. Best way to see if it tracks the ground better is to take the 3rd way into Chiva next weekend.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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That doesn't look too bad for stock packs. Best way to see if it tracks the ground better is to take the 3rd way into Chiva next weekend.
haha! i was just looking at some topos of redington...hows the third way compared to the second and first...and i dont wanna try the first way just yet...pretty sure a stock 4runner wont quite do it
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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Your Runner can do the 3rd with no real issues. It is more "level" than the other 2 routes.
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ZUK
Your Runner can do the 3rd with no real issues. It is more "level" than the other 2 routes.
by more level you mean it stays low instead of goin up and down all the little draws and hills?

oh by the way whats a good trail up around PHX?
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Old Feb 7, 2011 | 11:17 PM
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http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/G...view=246644954

These are about 1.5" longer than stock shocks. I'm currently running the extra long rear shocks with these front shocks. The extra long front shocks are really only good for trucks with stupid bracket IFS lifts. If you don't plan to lift more than you are, these would be a great upgrade on the cheap. I've heard lots of complains about the "Nitro 9000" so I went with the "Hydro 8000" and they ride great and offroad well too
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ZUK
Yep You're the guinea pig.
.....and you too, eaglescout
*sigh* Always the guinea pig. Ok I'll hit the local u-pull-n-pay and grab some overloads off of a rig out there so I can get them cut and bent to limit down time on my 4runner.

Jeez this thing is never going to be finished.....
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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by az_eaglescout_pilot
by more level you mean it stays low instead of goin up and down all the little draws and hills?

oh by the way whats a good trail up around PHX?
Ya.....less up and down and what is up is easier to climb(not as steep), more gradual.
Heck, I might swing down and take the 3rd way to the area above Chiva and camp there Saturday night. I can tell you about some of the Phx trails on the radio......ch 4.
I will know shortly if I'm coming down. I have a mostly stock 01 Taco extracab. Stock 410 gears...automatic...factory e-locker in rear....and that's it.

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Old Feb 8, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZUK
Ya.....less up and down and what is up is easier to climb(not as steep), more gradual.
Heck, I might swing down and take the 3rd way to the area above Chiva and camp there Saturday night. I can tell you about some of the Phx trails on the radio......ch 4.
I will know shortly if I'm coming down. I have a mostly stock 01 Taco extracab. Stock 410 gears...automatic...factory e-locker in rear....and that's it.
nice...gotta get me a CB...i was planning on doing either that third route or going to mess around at chimney rock on sunday at some point
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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This all sounds like what I might need to do as well. I notice my rear flex is nothing to brag about.









Ideas? Maybe a bad angle to look at flexed leaf side?
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:09 PM
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looks better than mine haha

are those 14" springs?
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