yeah, I put in the 125 lbs 14"

 

well the only way i've seen to get better flex outta the rear is swap in some 63" chevies...maybe and thats a big MAYBE, some different shackles will get us more? someone with more knowledge should tell me if this is a plausible ideer...

EDIT: OR you can do what ZUK said he needed guinea pigs for...
"I assume you still have the stock leafpacks with the factory overload springboard so if you were to do something like what I did here https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...f-leaf-225251/ then you might be pleasantly surprised with the results. Food for thought...
ZUK"

 

that looks intimidating! I need a garage and more tools. My buddy with a welding shop doesn't like truck stuff in there.

 

Time for some cooler friends! Hahaha I kid, I kid, yea I'm gonna be testing out the ride this weekend on a trail somewhere...you know your up travel will be shorter with the 14" so its gonna start rolling the body sooner, at least that's what my common sense tells me...ZUK will know more.

As for me I am goin to pull the sway bar and I softened up the torsion bars and I'm gonna throw on some longer shocks on the rear and hope it tracks the ground better.

 

I really need to study this stuff more, because for the life of me, I still don;t know what a torsion bar is or how to tighten/ loosen it.
I ZUKed my truck more because the back end was awful and bottomed out on a speed bump. I'm just getting into wheelin' a bit more recently. Maybe next year when i have some more time and loose money (ha!... like I'll have free money floating around) I'll do some serious work with it.
This is me last weekend nearly stuck on a rock.

 

There's still some Canucks out there who appreciate the white stuff



That's the flattend part where all the sleds have been, this was what most of it is like, and it wasn't just Jeeps getting stuck either as the picture below suggests.

 

Ya...I feel bad for ya ....but thanks for volunteering for GP Duty(guinea pig duty). Dang! Just checked and I don't see any guinea pig icons to click up here. dang.

 

I'm now looking into your future, Eaglescout.....

And it says 14" x 100 pounders will find their way under your Runner....

Keep the stock shackles for now and I agree it's a great idea to remove the swaybar....mine's been gone for 3 years now. Never missed it. Longer shocks in the rear sound good too.
BY the way, I am planning on being out on Reddington rd around noonish on Saturday.....take the 3rd way in and camp out above the Chiva Falls area for a great view of the lights of tucson thru the pass. It will be a little chilly I'm sure...probably under 40 degrees Channel 4.


Nice pics BCrunner and 99blackse....I'll try to take some snow pics while I'm up in the hills this weekend

 

is there a different chiva falls that i dont know about??? hahaha theres no snow near any roads down here...well up here tucson is higher than phoenix...im for sure going out there on sunday mid morning...your gonna be the only guy camped out there hahahaha

anyone have 14" 100lb black magic springs they want to trade for a pair of 12" 150 lbers???

 

Dang I wish Tucson was closer. I'm tempted to make the 7 hour run out there to see if you guys will let me wheel with you for a weekend....

 

If you do that ya gotta give me a chance to get off work for the weekend!

 

I see you have a blue 4runner... perhaps you'd like to become a member of the RB4R group? Talk to BigBlue, he's the VP. Since we're only about 7 hours apart we could plan a weekend run?

 

OK...Zuk here typing on my friend's super slow computer down here on the East side of Tucson and it looks like elk steaks tonight hmmmmmmmmmmm. Heading to the 3rd way in after 12pmish Saturday.
Hey Junker....come on down. I know some good places across the street from 3 feathers.....go thru the corral and some weird stuff shows up. Anybody that shows up on the top side of Chiva Saturday night an drink all the hot coffee they want.


Got my CB and a 9 foot antenna.....ch 4. Got my camera so I might have some good shots of the trail....and the wildlife that I probably won't see.
ZUK

 

HECK YES! elk steaks are BOMB!!! i'll be out there sunday mid-morning!

 

sorry i missed ya out at chiva ZUK...ended up going up to Box Canyon, Coke Ovens, and Martinez Cabin with my parents...but the 4runner def performed better than it did with those AALs on there! still need more articulation tho... SAS here i come!

 

A good pic here of where they live on your truck (the red bars) attach to the rear side of your upper control arm and run back to the anchor/adjusters you can see in the pic. Post #10
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f31/...roblem-153696/

Some more good t bar reading for you.
http://toyota.off-road.com/trucks-4x...ent-19258.html
http://personal.utulsa.edu/~nathan-b...29torsionb.pdf

 

If you didn't have a cb then I probably wouldn't have found you anyways I did go the 3rd way in to Chiva but the windmill was gone and a solar panel and an electric motor had replaced it. The large water tank was 99% full so the thing works. They also had everything barb wired off so I had to backtrack 1/2 mile and take a bypass to Chiva. I didn't actually go to Chiva but took the uphill section that is part of the 9 mile loop. You would not have made it up that hill Eaglescout. It's nasty and not for beginners. That said, now the forest service will come in and pave it probably.

I did camp out on the loop. I came out the 1st way towards "the chute" or 3 feathers as it might be called. There were about 7 or 8 rigs there showing off on the nasty center route up....some were good enough to go up "the keyway" as I heard them call it. I looked at all routes and found one left ofcenter that I could go up in my stockish looking rig. I represented Tacoma well. I heard one kid say that that is one bad ass rig. I went up the route slow and no spinning. Autos just make it look so good

There was a Sami there driven by am old gent.....it obviously had stock gears at it was stalling out even with lots of clutch pedal work....poor clutch must have been getting toasty was all I could figure.

I was a bit disappointed by the shooters(I have 3 guns myself)....the mess they leave is amazing. There were numerous areas along the main Reddington rd and on some of the starts of trails that were FULL of shotgun shells, broken tvs,targets all over and too many things to mention.

Now you know that an SAS will behave much differently on the road than your IFS? I've speak from tons of experience. SAS comes in different flavors....the flavor everyone seems to do is hi-steer and shackle to the rear. I like the benefits of basic cross-over with a Y-arm and shackle to the front. More food for thought.

 

everyone one we ran into on sunday kept saying never to sell my runner, one guy even offered to buy it! haha i was really surprised how far we made it with open diffs...if i had a better spotter...dad...some sections would have been heckuvalot easier.

back on topic: i talked to a guy who said he was thinking of doing a SAS with an FJ80 front axle and theres some guy in phoenix who just started making a steering kit that is much better hi steer...im going to call him and get some more information and i'll post up here for everyone.

 

Think that those coils might have helped the rear wheels track the ground a little better and let you go further than normal?

I'm uploading some pics of the Chiva area now....

I'm very interested in what you find out about the sas and hi-steer kit....

 

I'm not gonna load all 70 pics.... here's some good ones.


Tequila tank turn-off...



the mess the shooters leave all the time



almost to the tank



Where the windmill used to be. Now there's an electric motor under those boards


my campspot





My next future camp spot with an excellent view of the Tucson lights



tight sqeeze on the 9 mile loop


I had to go up this boulder field



"The Chute" or 3 feathers play area