Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

Wideband o2 sensor?

Old 11-29-2013, 08:28 PM
  #21  
Registered User
 
theerroneouspenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bone collector
3vze its a 3.GO now
Hmmmmmm.
Old 11-29-2013, 08:29 PM
  #22  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
cpljenkins01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Berkeley county wv
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
I'm just trying to get my trucks to run the best it can with the best fuel mileage. And it hard to adjust the arm with a narrowband sensor.
Old 11-29-2013, 08:35 PM
  #23  
Registered User
 
bone collector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northen Indiana
Posts: 2,025
Received 39 Likes on 37 Posts
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f199...thread-258959/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...n-take-183688/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...eaning-259045/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...ap-3vze-60513/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...k-3vze-187741/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...emoval-202562/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...owners-136622/
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f2/t...-150-a-222254/

this should keep you busy reading for awhile...
Old 11-29-2013, 08:35 PM
  #24  
Registered User
 
bone collector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northen Indiana
Posts: 2,025
Received 39 Likes on 37 Posts
btw I still get 17-19 mpgs and im running on 33 inch tires and drive like Mario andretti
Old 11-29-2013, 08:38 PM
  #25  
Registered User
 
theerroneouspenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bone collector
btw I still get 17-19 mpgs and im running on 33 inch tires and drive like Mario andretti
I kill an 1/8 tank,in 4*4, going like 3 miles. I drive like an old man. All shift points are @3k.

Might need to look into it. My milage is crap in town but really good on the highway
I'm on 31s.
Old 11-29-2013, 08:39 PM
  #26  
Registered User
 
bone collector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northen Indiana
Posts: 2,025
Received 39 Likes on 37 Posts
I shift at 4500 rpms generally
Old 11-29-2013, 10:41 PM
  #27  
Registered User
 
theerroneouspenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bone collector
I shift at 4500 rpms generally
I shift at 3k in all gears except 5th. Might be my issue. Lol
Old 11-30-2013, 07:08 AM
  #28  
osv
Registered User
 
osv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,376
Received 19 Likes on 18 Posts
Originally Posted by theerroneouspenguin
All a wide band will do is see how your running. Either lean or rich. It just tells you the specific ratio as opposed to the light show you get from the narrow band.
yes, that's why you want the wide band, it'll tell you how far you are off, but it'll input a narrow band signal to the computer, so the truck should run just the way that it did before... in theory, lol

look at the inside of your tailpipe... if it's black and sooty, which it almost certainly is with the primitive efi systems that we have, you are running rich... you can run rich without seeing black smoke.

at some point i think that i'd spend a bit more for a megasquirt efi bolt-on ecu.
Old 12-01-2013, 12:36 AM
  #29  
Registered User
 
Punchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: 91765
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Your going to want a linear gauge, Digital is to hard to read the way the ECU keeps pulsing high and low for it own tracking control.
Old 12-01-2013, 04:34 AM
  #30  
Registered User
 
bone collector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northen Indiana
Posts: 2,025
Received 39 Likes on 37 Posts
Any recommendations on that?
Old 12-01-2013, 08:45 AM
  #31  
Registered User
 
theerroneouspenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bone collector
Any recommendations on that?
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/MTXL.php
Old 12-01-2013, 11:12 AM
  #32  
Registered User
 
Punchy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: 91765
Posts: 591
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nice one, Covers both.
Old 12-02-2013, 12:20 PM
  #33  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
cpljenkins01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Berkeley county wv
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
I have done the egr pair delete and hardline delete but where can I get a 7mge afm? If It gives me more power I would like to do it. I want to put a wideband o2 in so I can read my air fuel ratio better but don't know how to install one but don't know what it will do to my stock ecu. Will it help or hurt my ecu?
Old 12-02-2013, 12:27 PM
  #34  
Registered User
 
theerroneouspenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
MAF

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...at=0&_from=R40

AFM

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw...e+afm&_sacat=0

Originally Posted by cpljenkins01
I have done the egr pair delete and hardline delete but where can I get a 7mge afm? If It gives me more power I would like to do it. I want to put a wideband o2 in so I can read my air fuel ratio better but don't know how to install one but don't know what it will do to my stock ecu. Will it help or hurt my ecu?
It won't hurt it. Just make it breath and drink better. With the wideband you can monitor the air/fuel your getting. if you put it on and its to low, you will get pinging which is a sign of detonation in your motor. very bad.

if its to rich your gas needle will drop as you watch it. lol

Last edited by theerroneouspenguin; 12-02-2013 at 12:30 PM.
Old 12-02-2013, 12:52 PM
  #35  
Registered User
 
bone collector's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Northen Indiana
Posts: 2,025
Received 39 Likes on 37 Posts
Originally Posted by cpljenkins01
I have done the egr pair delete and hardline delete but where can I get a 7mge afm? If It gives me more power I would like to do it. I want to put a wideband o2 in so I can read my air fuel ratio better but don't know how to install one but don't know what it will do to my stock ecu. Will it help or hurt my ecu?


92-94 v6 camry or any 7mge supra or Cressida. I got mine from a junkyard. best 50 bucks I ever spent
Old 12-02-2013, 12:58 PM
  #36  
Registered User
 
theerroneouspenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bone collector
92-94 v6 camry or any 7mge supra or Cressida. I got mine from a junkyard. best 50 bucks I ever spent
I was gonna offer the junkyard but didn't know if he wanted to risk it. but yes..junk yards have them too.
Old 12-02-2013, 03:40 PM
  #37  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
cpljenkins01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Berkeley county wv
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
My air/fuel is hard to read but with a narrowband I have now it has low end rattle and it reads that I'm running rich. So I am scared to go much richer cuz I'm already using more fuel than I should.
Old 12-02-2013, 03:48 PM
  #38  
Registered User
 
theerroneouspenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cpljenkins01
My air/fuel is hard to read but with a narrowband I have now it has low end rattle and it reads that I'm running rich. So I am scared to go much richer cuz I'm already using more fuel than I should.
all a narrow band is gonna do is give you a light show. dosent even work like it should..see how it jumps all over the place except at WOT??

yea..if your gonna tune, want it running better and be able to see whats REALLY going on, get a wide band. narrow bands are useless
Old 12-02-2013, 06:49 PM
  #39  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
cpljenkins01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Berkeley county wv
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 1 Post
Ok how would I wire a wideband sensor up? Would I get rid of my narrowband and wire the wideband in its place or should I if its possible if so how to wire the wideband up beside the narrowband in a new bung but don't send the signal wire to the ecu just send it to the air/fuel gauge? Whats the safest or best way to do this?
Old 12-02-2013, 06:53 PM
  #40  
Registered User
 
theerroneouspenguin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 247
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by cpljenkins01
Ok how would I wire a wideband sensor up? Would I get rid of my narrowband and wire the wideband in its place or should I if its possible if so how to wire the wideband up beside the narrowband in a new bung but don't send the signal wire to the ecu just send it to the air/fuel gauge? Whats the safest or best way to do this?
the narrowband would come out and the wide band would take its place. it KIND OF hooks up like a narrow band but it has it's own sensor.

read:

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/s...Manual_1.1.pdf

hardest part is welding the bung. the bung is the sensor and takes the place of an o2 sensor.

Last edited by theerroneouspenguin; 12-02-2013 at 06:55 PM.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Wideband o2 sensor?



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 07:11 PM.