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Old May 26, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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V6 Performance Chip/Module

Anyone have any thoughts on whether or not these are bogus? Sounds too good to be true, and as Mama told me, it usually is.

HIGHER HP GAINS
MORE TORQUE
BETTER ACCELERATION
BETTER GAS MILEAGE
INCREASED ACCURACY & ENGINE PERFORMANCE

Reviews from customers say they work, but who knows how legit those actually are? Just curious if anyone has installed on of these or one like it and if it actually works.

Performance Chip/Module (Ebay)
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Old May 26, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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These EBAY performance chips are 20 cent resistors you can grab at radioshack. They give your ECU a false signal for either the ECT or IAT sensor, fooling your ECU into thinking that your engine is either colder or ingesting colder air respectively. Under these false pretenses your ECU will advance your ignition timing and/or add additional fuel resulting in increased power.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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So it's bogus as I suspected. Thanks. Figured as much, all of the "satisfied" customers have 1 or 2 ratings, so they are probably all fake.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by vegascoug
So it's bogus as I suspected. Thanks. Figured as much, all of the "satisfied" customers have 1 or 2 ratings, so they are probably all fake.
Well, they do work conceptually its just ridiculously overpriced and you'll only see a small boost in performance, 2-5 horsepower rather than the claimed 25.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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I like your name, Crymson. I go by CrimsonCougar at times.

Wanted a Crimson 4Runner but settled on Silver instead (got a great deal)
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Old May 26, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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I wouldn't suggest them at all. I haven't really ever agreed with them unless you are doing other mods along with it and it's a real one. I was thinking about purchasing one for me old toy, but never got around to it.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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Thanks!
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Old May 26, 2006 | 04:10 PM
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http://store.summitracing.com/partde...3+4294924755+0 How about those?
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Old May 26, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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I know python fuel injectors are horrible. So, I surely wouldn't trust any electronic module made by them!
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Old May 26, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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I used to run a Venom 400, and was very satisfied with the results at the time. Good seat of the pants difference and improved throttle response, I can't offer any good praise for the unit itself as it was installed in 2002. The unit taps into the AFM signal wire and the TPS signal wire, activating at a predetermined throttle angle to keep fuel economy decent. I just recently got rid of it in place of a split second unit.
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Old May 27, 2006 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Crymson
These EBAY performance chips are 20 cent resistors you can grab at radioshack. They give your ECU a false signal for either the ECT or IAT sensor, fooling your ECU into thinking that your engine is either colder or ingesting colder air respectively. Under these false pretenses your ECU will advance your ignition timing and/or add additional fuel resulting in increased power.
https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f130/engine-coolant-temperature-sensor-ect-mod-75163/
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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Crymson,
I just got one of these V400's for my 4runner. Any tips on install? It looked pretty straight forward at first, but the directions are pretty vague. The TPS and AFM wires for the module itself has connectors on the ends, but it seems to me I'm going to have to just cut these off and splice wires. How was yours done?
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Use some splice connectors to tap into your stock wiring on the AFM and TPS.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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Reply to your question>

That "chip" you're talking about is a resistor. i would not recommend buying one. they are a waste of money, trust me. All these claims are false. It plugs into your IAT (intake air temperature) sensor and fools your ecu. You might get 5 hp but your biggest difference will be your fuel mileage. It should drop considerabley.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Crymson
I used to run a Venom 400, and was very satisfied with the results at the time. Good seat of the pants difference and improved throttle response, I can't offer any good praise for the unit itself as it was installed in 2002. The unit taps into the AFM signal wire and the TPS signal wire, activating at a predetermined throttle angle to keep fuel economy decent. I just recently got rid of it in place of a split second unit.

I'd love to see a dyno run.. Seems that the venom units are somewhat generic.. The only way to really develop a unit like this is with dyno time.

LC seems to have evaluated them for the 3rz and then was selling them off at $100 a pop:
http://www.lcengineering.com/newslet...59bb5ed030dd1b

Also see the Neon FAQ:
2.9.12:
http://faq.neons.org/faq/FAQ_AMP.html


http://forums.evolutionm.net/archive...hp?t-1101.html

A company called JET offers "reprogrammed" engine control units ($400). However, analysis has determined that the only modification performed by JET was to place a sticker on the PCM case - the programming remained identical to stock. The Venom 400, another aftermarket computer, also has not been proven to significantly help performance. The Venom unit is a 'piggyback' computer that operates at partial throttle positions, but has no effect when the regular PCM goes into 'open loop' mode at wide open throttle.
Venom advertises "upto 25%" performance increase.. Cough.. Cough.

The 22re and 3.0 both have oddball AFM signals... I promise there isn't that much power in messing with the mixture and timing, as I've done it via full ECU replacement.

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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Help

Originally Posted by Crymson
Use some splice connectors to tap into your stock wiring on the AFM and TPS.
Which wires do I Splice in to? I have a 03 tacoma v6..Please help
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