sincal

Ok i have a 90 22re on 33's with stock gearing i believe. I drove to yosemite a week back and that is the first time i really tried to make it up hills and man was it a dog. I had to shift down to third a couple of times. My question is I need to drive to reno this week for a family emergency. And i know going over the pass is going to be a huge pain. Do you think if i through 31's under there that it will help getting up the hill? I know regearing is what i ultimately need to due but funds cant afford that right now. Any help is appreciated. thanks

abecedarian

I've got a stock 88 4runner (don't know the ratios- haven't cared to check) that came with 28" stock and I've got 31's on it now. I see a loss of speed and have to shift to 4th, on anything over about a 2% grade (two feet up for every 100 feet forward) and anything over 4% and I'm hard-pressed to keep 4th and 40mph, but 3rd will keep 60. I don't think you'd be that much worse of than I considering I managed to pull 300+ miles out of one tank of gas from home to Fresno while winding it out in 3rd most of the way up the Grapevine / I-5. I also made it from Carson City to Sacramento (Rancho Cordova actually) on about 1/2 tank.
No doubt you will not fare quite so well, but don't be afraid of revving the 22re above 4000... unless you're burning lots of oil and loosing coolant. And even then, I'd be scared with better gears.
If you go with the 31's you will probably be alright... and probably even with the 33's- just keep the 33's air'd up well.

iamsuperbleeder

31's on my stock gears, and on large hills (this is Florida mind you, my "large" hills may be nothing compared to what you're talking about), I quite often find myself downshifting into 4th. 3rd is sometimes needed over large bridges; for the local guys in here, the bridge to get over to MI from the PSJ area, that can require 3rd sometimes, unless there's not too much traffic and I get get some speed up first to help the accent

abecedarian

sincal:
out of curiosity... how is it you have a 4" Rancho lift and Downey LT and don't appear to be any higher than I with my ProComp 4" lift? You have the bars relaxed? It's probably been brought up, but I'm just now looking at your avatar. Is it the 33's?

sincal

Ok thanks abe. I dont have a tach. So i dont know the rpm's i shift to sound. But the engine runs great just rebuilt and bored 40 over. Its just I drove my jetta over the pass and i still had to downshift on occasion. So I was worried about the yota because it lacks balls.

abecedarian

au-contrere... it has balls... you just have to squeeze them tighter to make it scream.

sincal

The bars are relaxed all the way with ball joint spacers so that my ride is soft so im sure its the 33's and that pic does not do it justice..

sincal

yeah without a tach im afraid of squeezing them too hard..lol

sincal

Oh and abe its just the downey long travel cv's

abecedarian

well I was reading your sig which says:
"Downey long travel cv,Blistein Fronts and Doetche rear
4" Rancho sus lift with a-arms. Low profile bump stops"


makes more sense now.

sincal

does my sig sound wrong?

toyota4x4907

Sunshine Skyway? I had driven over that bridge like 10 times when I lived in Florida I wasn't doing the driving though...


I think 31s would fair better than the 33s. There are some steep hills just south of the city I live in in a mountain pass about 20 miles long. I think there are a few 4% and 5% grades. I have driven my truck with both 235/75r15s and 31x10.5 tires. with the 235s I was able to hold 5th up most hills doing about 55-60. with the 31s I drive through that area in 4th and usually have to downshift to 3rd on a few hills. 33s on stock gearing would be fun....

sincal

well two of the hills i will have to go up are 8% so yeah it will be fun plus its snowing

toyota4x4907

OH! Lovely! so 4x4? or at least having the hubs locked so 4x4 is available if needed. ( unless you have ADD)

abecedarian

If it's only the CV's, I'd probably amend it to say something like:
Downey CV's and 4" lift Rancho IFS a-arms front

or something similar... that's just me though.

sincal

there you go abe changed

sincal

No add so i will leave hubs locked just was wondering if changing to 31's will make that big of a differance

Matt16

Yes, it will. Pre-'95 Toyota trucks need to be geared the same or lower than factory. Its still going to be a bit of a dog with 31s, but it will be better than 33s without a doubt.