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Old 11-06-2010, 07:39 PM
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A simple brake job turned into a headache

I'm trying to get the front rotors off to get them turned, but I've run into a snag getting the cone washers out. A couple of them have the little slit facing closest to the outside and its difficult to get a good wack at them with my flat head screw driver. Im assuming this outside cylinder is a dust cover or something I couldn't find anything on it and it appears to be a part of the hub. Ive tried tapping on ridge where it meets the hub but I can't figure out how to get it off. Any ideas guys?

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here ya go! should help you out!

https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...-rotors-98741/
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Thanks but that's not what I needed
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what is it your working on? looks like an older model yeah?
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90 pickup 4x4 with manual locking hubs. I've read the chilton manual and searched on here hut I didn't see anything about this. When I take the wheel off the center piece stays on the hub. It's a cylinder around the aisin locking hub almost like a guard or shield. It's making it difficult for me to get to the cone washers holding the hub to the rotor.
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pretty sure that thing is suppose to come off with the wheel. I had those on my American Racing rims and I never used them 'cause it looked stupid. Your SURE you can't just pull that cylinder off?
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it's just a dust cover. You can either gently tap the thing off and spend hours on trying not to damage it or hit the thing with your purse (hammer) and be done with it. There's a reason you can't find it because it's not on there from the factory.
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Yeah, x3 on remove that shield and giver!
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x4 hit it harder
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Originally Posted by fork
x4 hit it harder
haha all you need is a 85 and 89 runner and you got a sick family
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right i agree that cylindrical cover is ment for a wheel and probably rested tight to the hub. me id vest beat the thing off and not use it anymore. you will most likely damage it getting it off since you seem to be having trouble with it. then you will have all the room you need.
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I had a set of thoise on my pickup.
Things rusted to the hub, and i had to jam a screwdriver under em to get it out.
Anyways, on the cone washers..
Get a rubber mallet, and hit the end of the stud.
OR.
If you take a hammer and lightly tap the end of the stud it should loosen them.
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Alright fellas I'll take another crack at it today and let you know how it turns out.
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I solved those rusted and stuck 'cans'/trim things with tin snips, and tossed theme in the recycle pile. mine were also bonded with rust to the hub/rotor.

For the cone washers, a soft(er) metal (brass, copper, ...) drift or hammer face is your friend. Just strike the end of the stud and they should pop out.
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or use a small punch instead of a slothead. Might leave scars but it worked for me.
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several flathead screw screw drivers and a hammer and work it off evenly if you still want that hard cover... otherwise big hammer and let'er have it!
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I thought my cone washers were in really tight and rusted.. ..my hammer and few good whacks and they came right out. I thought I would bend or break the stud, but they ALL came out with me beating HARD on them.
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Living here on the north coast of CA. I have done quite a few TOTALLY rusted solid cone washers and the best way I have found to free them is soaking them with PB blaster then getting a 1/2" diameter 8" long brass drift and a 10lb sledge. Put the one end of the brass drift on the head of the stud and hit the other end not too hard with the sledge. I have NEVER had one not come off using this method.
Don't hit the stud too hard or you could damage it. Just a few good thumps and it should set those free. If they are totally stubborn heat them up with a torch then do the above method.
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smack the crap out of the hub (this will pop the cone washers out) then rotate the cone washers till you see the slot, place the thinnest flat screwdriver you have into the slot and pop the end of the screwdriver with a hammer, the cone washer will expand and you can slide it off the end of the stud.

Use a rubber mallet to hit the hub
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alright gents i got those dumb dust covers off earlier today. i made a few trips down to autozone and sears to pick up tin snips, 2-1/8 socket, 1/2" to 3/4" adapter, new rotors and pads, and some pb blaster.

I used the tin snips to cut the covers down as far as i could get them then followed up with the flat head screw driver and a hammer and wedged it in on the inside lip. The sob split and popped right off. The cone washers gave me a little trouble but i soaked them in pb blaster and alternated with hitting the slots with the screw driver, banging the side of the hub and tapping the studs. they eventually all came out.

The better part of a day later and I have some new brakes on. I was going to flush out the lines with new fluid but I'm pretty wore out and I think i'll save that project for next week.

Thanks again for all the input fellas.
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