Second Blown HG on 3VZE: Desperate
#102
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Resurrection/update: Finally got the head off. Nothing new, looks exactly like before; no obvious signs that the HG even blew, but there is water in the cylinder. I haven't done anything yet but take off the head. Hoping to get it back together when the weather warms up...
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Resurrection/update: Finally got the head off. Nothing new, looks exactly like before; no obvious signs that the HG even blew, but there is water in the cylinder. I haven't done anything yet but take off the head. Hoping to get it back together when the weather warms up...
#105
yeah, no error of yours, but its been suggested that maybe there was a defect in the casting of your block in one the cooling passages. That would make a heck of a lot more sense than an error in the installation, as I am well aware you did a phenomenal job on your rebuild, more thorough than most members on this site would even dream of haha.
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all specd, new bolts, all that crap... not driven hard... just a POS underpowered turd motor....
This one is losing water and boiling water in the overflow when im stopped, pressure in the system too.. no mixing but its just a matter of time...
Is the 3.4 much more reliable because i can't take this POS anymore. i'm about to sell this junk and get something else but i love my truck....
anyone in Socal do a 3.4 swap? might want to offer me some advice??
to the OP good luck on your rebuild but after my third HG now i am completely over this POS motor...
#111
Well mine has 257,000 miles on it and has never been opened up.
Still factory head gaskets, is what i was told when i bought it.
Its only a matter of time.
I keep good oil in it, try to keep it cool, but i DO drive it. When it goes ill worry about it then.
Still factory head gaskets, is what i was told when i bought it.
Its only a matter of time.
I keep good oil in it, try to keep it cool, but i DO drive it. When it goes ill worry about it then.
#112
I have two; both with over 210k on original gaskets, one leaks oil from the gaskets, one does not. Both are the old asbestos head gaskets, which seem to last and last as long as you don't over heat it.
#113
Ancient thread resurrection:
I haven't been around in ages, but I think I finally figured out what was causing this. I'm running @ 210 psi compression (Stock is 173) and the fuel system was never adjusted to compensate. I think for whatever reason there's a slight difference in valve adjustment or compression for that cylinder (1) and it' probably running a little lean so I believe that's what has been causing me to blow out the head gasket on that cylinder. I've been going over and over it in my mind with the truck sitting in the driveway now for OVER A YEAR...
I haven't been around in ages, but I think I finally figured out what was causing this. I'm running @ 210 psi compression (Stock is 173) and the fuel system was never adjusted to compensate. I think for whatever reason there's a slight difference in valve adjustment or compression for that cylinder (1) and it' probably running a little lean so I believe that's what has been causing me to blow out the head gasket on that cylinder. I've been going over and over it in my mind with the truck sitting in the driveway now for OVER A YEAR...
If you rebuild, put a wideband like the LC1 on it so you can see what your AFR is. The viscous fan failure thing could also be related but it seems a bit far fetched.
Mine has recently started pissing out the side of the headgasket. grrr!
Last edited by Bumpin' Yota; Feb 12, 2009 at 08:45 PM.
#114
I think that you've solved your mystery. A higher compression is going to generate more heat, be more sensative to octane changes, and thus be more prone to say "bye bye" if you are lean. The trailer was probably the added strain that broke the camel's back.
If you rebuild, put a wideband like the LC1 on it so you can see what your AFR is. The viscous fan failure thing could also be related but it seems a bit far fetched.
Mine has recently started pissing out the side of the headgasket. grrr!
If you rebuild, put a wideband like the LC1 on it so you can see what your AFR is. The viscous fan failure thing could also be related but it seems a bit far fetched.
Mine has recently started pissing out the side of the headgasket. grrr!
#115
I think your better off just getting another motor that one sounds like a lemon.
I am glad I don't have the 3vze anymore I think I rebuilt mine about 3 times as well it's a money pit.
You can always find a part toyota on craigslist.com .
I am glad I don't have the 3vze anymore I think I rebuilt mine about 3 times as well it's a money pit.
You can always find a part toyota on craigslist.com .
#116
Well to the OP.. and anyone else who has a headgasket problem.
in my situation i got tired of replacing these headgaskets and decided to go 3.4.. while saving money to get all the parts i fgured what the hell i'll try the Bar's headgasket fix... (liquid you pour in your radiator) what can it hurt? the motor is coming out anyway!
That stuff actually works! no more sputterig, no mixing, pretty surprised at it actually. the truck runs fine... i'm still going to go 3.4 but that stuff bought me some time.. its been running for about 2 months with no problems after pouring that stuff in my radiator...
9 bucks for the bars headgasket stop leak! to let me drive this POS motor for a little longer!
in my situation i got tired of replacing these headgaskets and decided to go 3.4.. while saving money to get all the parts i fgured what the hell i'll try the Bar's headgasket fix... (liquid you pour in your radiator) what can it hurt? the motor is coming out anyway!
That stuff actually works! no more sputterig, no mixing, pretty surprised at it actually. the truck runs fine... i'm still going to go 3.4 but that stuff bought me some time.. its been running for about 2 months with no problems after pouring that stuff in my radiator...
9 bucks for the bars headgasket stop leak! to let me drive this POS motor for a little longer!
#117
Well to the OP.. and anyone else who has a headgasket problem.
in my situation i got tired of replacing these headgaskets and decided to go 3.4.. while saving money to get all the parts i fgured what the hell i'll try the Bar's headgasket fix... (liquid you pour in your radiator) what can it hurt? the motor is coming out anyway!
That stuff actually works! no more sputterig, no mixing, pretty surprised at it actually. the truck runs fine... i'm still going to go 3.4 but that stuff bought me some time.. its been running for about 2 months with no problems after pouring that stuff in my radiator...
9 bucks for the bars headgasket stop leak! to let me drive this POS motor for a little longer!
in my situation i got tired of replacing these headgaskets and decided to go 3.4.. while saving money to get all the parts i fgured what the hell i'll try the Bar's headgasket fix... (liquid you pour in your radiator) what can it hurt? the motor is coming out anyway!
That stuff actually works! no more sputterig, no mixing, pretty surprised at it actually. the truck runs fine... i'm still going to go 3.4 but that stuff bought me some time.. its been running for about 2 months with no problems after pouring that stuff in my radiator...
9 bucks for the bars headgasket stop leak! to let me drive this POS motor for a little longer!
#118
i missed it... do you have headers?
If not those stock exahust manafolds are your nemisis. To much hot exhaust at the #6. Its just a flat bad design.
Ive got headers on both of my rebuilds and have never had any issues. one has 100K + on it the other has about 30K.
If not those stock exahust manafolds are your nemisis. To much hot exhaust at the #6. Its just a flat bad design.
Ive got headers on both of my rebuilds and have never had any issues. one has 100K + on it the other has about 30K.
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No headers.
I didn't have a problem at the #6; it was #2, the furthest possible distance from the heat.
It had no problems until I overheated it at 218k miles. Since then, nothing but trouble. The heads & block were mic'd and WELL within all limits (1/10 of allowable) per the FSM for warpage. This is all in the rebuild thread. I'm stumped why the 3.0 sux after rebuild, but 1 in 100 lasts after a head gasket is blown...???
I didn't have a problem at the #6; it was #2, the furthest possible distance from the heat.
It had no problems until I overheated it at 218k miles. Since then, nothing but trouble. The heads & block were mic'd and WELL within all limits (1/10 of allowable) per the FSM for warpage. This is all in the rebuild thread. I'm stumped why the 3.0 sux after rebuild, but 1 in 100 lasts after a head gasket is blown...???
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