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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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Check out the total chaos, I think its the gen2 kit that you can use coilovers with, I honestly think that would be the way to go, I just have a feeling coilovers have a better ride...

EDIT: Looking at the kit that you purchased, They look like they have a huge gap, Anything is possible dude you should deff get it done !!

yep yep, and I might be enheriting a mig welder soon, so that'll help out

the only issue I am going to have is getting the time to do it, since it is my DD afterall, and I plan on keeping it that way
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
I just thought of something else...

I wander if I would be able to make this a coil-over setup and ditch the t-bars all together? I wander if there's enough space between those UCA's?

don't some of the LT kits do that, or is that only on the 2wd's that that's possible?
I think that may be part of why the LT kits widen your front end, I don't think you will have enough room to squeeze in the coil-overs and not have them rub during full travel of the suspension.
I could be wrong.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fastkevman
I think that may be part of why the LT kits widen your front end, I don't think you will have enough room to squeeze in the coil-overs and not have them rub during full travel of the suspension.
I could be wrong.
I thought the widening of the stance is what gave it the travel

For instance, put your arm straight out to your side. For theoritical purposes, let's say your elbow is where your tire is on the stock IFS, and your wrist is where the tire is with an LT kit. Move you arm up and down; notice your wrist is moving up and down (traveling) a lot further than your elbow

at least that's how I look at it
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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LT kits widen your front end because if it didn't it wouldn't increase your travel. The CA is your lever and if your lever isn't longer you won't get any more range than stock. I have no answer to the coilover thing, though. Has anybody retrofitted a 96-04 tacoma front CAs to a 3rd gen front end yet?
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
I have a 4Crawler 1" diff drop kits as well yet to be installed, so that might help a little

thanks for the info and words of wisdom; yeah I really don't need/want a SAS. It's a pride kinda thing I guess 2 buddies of mine around here have SASed Taco's and one of my friends has a SASed 90, and they keep nagg'n me "When you gunna SAS yours?", and I just keep say'n "Never; I'll just build my IFS up so it'll get me where ever I want to go, and let me ride comfortably on the way back home and back to work the next day!". And for the $$$$ of a LT kit, well that's just rediculous...
I also read all of his posts and links from on this forum and ih8mud. Sounds awesome to me too. Wish they still sold the offset UCA's.

Like you, I have the diff drop brackets and 1.5 inch BJ spacers (both from 4Crawler) to install. Did you already do ball joints? Or you going to do them when you install all the parts? Online ball joints, NAPA, or where? I need to buy some BJ's before I do my spacers and diff drop.
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
I thought the widening of the stance is what gave it the travel

For instance, put your arm straight out to your side. For theoritical purposes, let's say your elbow is where your tire is on the stock IFS, and your wrist is where the tire is with an LT kit. Move you arm up and down; notice your wrist is moving up and down (traveling) a lot further than your elbow

at least that's how I look at it
Thats why you're going to do a thorough thread with pics of your build.....right!
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by iamsuperbleeder
For instance, put your arm straight out to your side. For theoritical purposes, let's say your elbow is where your tire is on the stock IFS, and your wrist is where the tire is with an LT kit. Move you arm up and down; notice your wrist is moving up and down (traveling) a lot further than your elbow

at least that's how I look at it
Sounds like the white boy version of the funky chicken.....
Don't forget to hop from 1 foot to the other while moving your arms up and down......lol

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Don't forget to hop from 1 foot to the other while moving your arms up and down......lol
That didnt gain me any horsepower......



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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:30 PM
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All power gains come from going right - left. Not left - right. In that order
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:31 PM
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by phildelfino
Like you, I have the diff drop brackets and 1.5 inch BJ spacers (both from 4Crawler) to install. Did you already do ball joints? Or you going to do them when you install all the parts? Online ball joints, NAPA, or where?
I haven't installed ANY of my new hardware yet; I'm waiting and I'm just gunna knock it all out at once. I've got the 1.5" BJ-spacers, 1" diff drop, all 4 upper and lower ball joints, all 4 inner and outer tie rod ends for both side, a new pitman arm, and a new idler arm which will also be fitted with a brace. I bought all the BJ's, tie rods, idler arm, and pitman arm online (payed about $200 for them all I think, it's been a little while, through eBay, but still quality stuff). I'm also going to grab some new urethane lower control arm bushings and replace those while I'm in there too. I'm going to paint almost all of the new hardware a purdy red, cause it'll all be visable once I install a MC front bumper

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Thats why you're going to do a thorough thread with pics of your build.....right!
are you wanting me to post pictures or an animation of me moving my arm up and down to demonstrate this theory? lol
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:45 PM
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Please, don't, 'bleeder.......no animated versions of you doing ANYTHING. Spare the lil 1's on this here family forum......
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by a4runnerfreak
Please, don't, 'bleeder.......no animated versions of you doing ANYTHING. Spare the lil 1's on this here family forum......
haha, ok fine
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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and now a pic, just cause I can't wait and I'm all jazzed up about it

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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The only thing im wondering about is, how big of a difference is it going to make if you dont have the lower arms like in that picture...


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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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I was just wondering the same thing......
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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their stock lower arms, just painted red although it would appear he may have bashed and bent up the lip on the front of both arms









thank you all picture-contributing members

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Ok, you say so......lol
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by a4runnerfreak
Ok, you say so......lol
lol, they are man, bone stock LCAs; I've looked into this




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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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I know 'bleeder, I can tell. Come on now, since when have you "known" me not to give ya a hard time.......lol!
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