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Old 08-01-2006, 06:09 AM
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Optima Red-Top Slowly Dying

Arg, so my 4Runner had been having some VERY slow cranking starts, it's literally getting worse by the day. Tomorrow, I fear I will not be able to crank the engine over so its time to get a standard replacement batt at Autozone.

I have an Optima Red-Top 34R but a few months ago it slipped out of the battery hold-down and ground against the power steering pulley, making a small hole in the case at the bottom (those Optimas are slippery little bastards). Everything seemed to be working fine, but now the battery can't seem to hold much of a charge overnight, and I'm guessing this hole is to blame (nothing really leaked out of the battery, it just has some acid build-up on the hole like you would see on the poles with a standard acid battery.) Probably some gases slowly escaping, making it hold less charge each day. In retrospect, I should have JB-Welded the hole shut... damn 20-20 hindsight.

I know what you're thinking, and yes my alternator is working fine. I have an MR2 alternator and an aftermarket digital voltage gauge, it cranks out 14.4V at anything over 750 rpm.

Anyway, this is more of a rant than a thread asking for advice, and I would buy another Optima since they are great batteries but I'm selling my 2nd gen in about 2 months so no need to buy a REALLY nice battery for the 4Runner. Just thought I'd let you guys know, crank that Optima down or it could be damaged by your pulleys (or visa-versa) In retrospect, any stadard battery would have leaked all of its acid out and stopped working on the spot, so really the Optima held up admirably.

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It should be under warranty 3 year free replacement...where ever you bought....if its autozone just rant and rave enough and they should replace it its there policy
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Originally Posted by 1styota4X4
It should be under warranty 3 year free replacement...where ever you bought....if its autozone just rant and rave enough and they should replace it its there policy
My guess, the pulley damage voids the warrantee... but I suppose it's worth a shot for a $120 battery...

I bought it at Batteries Plus, maybe I'll try finding one and give them a call. Thanks dude
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Is your Red Top a Deep-Cycle/Starting Battery???

Because I have a Yellow-Top in my 4Runner and its a battery designed for Starting as well as deep-cycle!! But A battery will take a good 2 hour drive to fully charge up after a discharge like that!!
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Originally Posted by 97Limited
Is your Red Top a Deep-Cycle/Starting Battery???

Because I have a Yellow-Top in my 4Runner and its a battery designed for Starting as well as deep-cycle!! But A battery will take a good 2 hour drive to fully charge up after a discharge like that!!
I purposely took an hour and a half drive to see if it just needed a good charge, but the next morning the engine barely cranked over. Usually, it cranks quickly and starts in about 1 second. This morning, I turned over SUPER slow and took maybe 5 seconds to start. Once the engine is running everything is fine baceuse the alternator keeps everything happy.

Red-Tops are not deep cycle, to answer your question. Also strange, is if I have been driving around for a little bit and turn the car off, it will start rioght back up. But if it sits for a few hours it seems the battery begins to lose its charge, and after a whole night it barely has enough juice to start the car. This morning the battery registered 11.1 volts before I started it, but the previous evening it had 12.4 volts. I also have checked to see if there are any lights on or anything that might be discharging the battery, and nothing has been left on.

It's just finally giving out I think, barely holding any charge. I'm going to buy a cheapy $60-70 battery, and then see if I can get the Optima warranteed, which like I said I doubt because it has been damaged.
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I also checked the cables and connections, everything is spick-n-span.
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ALso, you may be due for a starter contact rebuild (kit from the dealer for $15)...
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ALso, you may be due for a starter contact rebuild (kit from the dealer for $15)...
Nah, I got a new starter about 5000 miles ago. 1.6KW unit from Checker, works great.
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I burned through 2 red tops in my mustang. Once they lose their charge they're dead. I'll never own another red top. I'm going to try a yellow top in both the stang and the 4R.
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Originally Posted by Mikestang
I burned through 2 red tops in my mustang. Once they lose their charge they're dead. I'll never own another red top. I'm going to try a yellow top in both the stang and the 4R.

http://www.odysseybatteries.com/
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Originally Posted by Mikestang
I burned through 2 red tops in my mustang. Once they lose their charge they're dead. I'll never own another red top. I'm going to try a yellow top in both the stang and the 4R.
Yeah, that's what I'm kind of thinking... but I love the extra side poles for accessories

I'm thinking about doing a dual battery set-up on my new 4Runner, perhaps dual yellow-tops. We will see, that's farther down the road...
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Wow, same EXACT thing happend to my 92 4Runner with a red top. A few months after the damage it started sucking, I had it tested, 1 out of the 6 cells was dead.

Soultion, new red top and something better than a bungee cord!

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Originally Posted by 4x4Lamm
Wow, same EXACT thing happend to my 92 4Runner with a red top. A few months after the damage it started sucking, I had it tested, 1 out of the 6 cells was dead.

Soultion, new red top and something better than a bungee cord!

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Ha ha! I'm not alone!



Yeah, stupid battery hold down.
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