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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Yeah....you better stop! Gawd!
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Old Jul 24, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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STOPPED, .....OFFICIALLY!........I Promise! hahaha.

Watching, Hertz, and hoping to hear some good news, next! If not, looking forward to walking through it with ya!

Have a nice Sunday, Guys, .....

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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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It's turning out rather swell already. Thanks, Chef. You, too!
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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My Pleasure, Sir! ....

Now, .....WHERE IS THAT HERTZ? hahaha.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:25 AM
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Maybe he's off on a culinary binge......you evil temper of taste. BAHAHAHA!!!
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Hmmmmm, maybe, indeed! lol.

'Hertzzzzzzzz? Hertzzzzzzzzz? WHY AREN'T THESE POTATOES READY FOR SERVICE??? WE HAVE 20 MINUTES TO '40 COVERS UP', ..AND YOU'VE NOT EVEN STARTED TO BOIL THE WATER????? AHHHHHHH!'.... Then I sling a hard as stone Russet at him from across the kitchen, just to solidify my expression of displeasure! MUahahahahahah! Jk, jk, jk,...

"2 Lamb Chops, FIRE< .... Two Rich mans Burgers, FIRE, ... 3 Lobster Macs, fire in 10, ... WHERE THE HECK IS HERTZ?????? I NEED THOSE POTATOES, ASAPPPPP! " HAHAHAHA.
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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His peeler's dull?
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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Hahaha, very funny. Culinary delights welcome here! Sorry sometimes it is hard for me to get online. I usually have to do it at work which is tricky. The truck is STILL at the shop. No word on progress and I think they are tired of hearing from me, so I have just been waiting for them to call me. Ah a brother in arms huh vtyotapickup? I'll let you know when I do. For now take these guys advice and look into some of the basics. My problem is I dont quite understand all the features of an OHM reader but with the help of the good people at autozone I was able to eliminate several components and therefore try to pinpoint the problem for the mechanic....It was not easy to take it in and I am still losing sleep over "giving up", but there comes a time when your at a loss and the wallet is thin...Hang in there guys!
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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Hey there vtyotapickup, try this. Drive the truck fast enough to gain enough speed to turn off the ignition and coast. Then turn the truck back on and see if your truck will drive normally for a short period of time. Mine does...just wondering if we have the same symptoms. Also feel free to use this post/thread to describe your issues and try to get an answer to resolve your issue...you already are getting advice from Chef and Thook, two of the best!
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 01:15 PM
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Hahaha...." one of the best and a pupil " , ....That's more like it! lol. Thanks though, Hertz.

Yeah, it's rough leaving it, eh? I'm getting to that point, myself. Heck, I had a serious guru helping me for 14 Hours, over 2 days(we solved many issues and adjusted the valves, etc., ..but the Hiccup issue? NOPE, still a mystery, lol). The foreman at DCH Toyota? Figured out a couple things, but then told me, before he sent it home, "Without really in depth diagnosis, which I can no longer do for free--Some of the machines require registering which vehicle is being hooked up and automatically added to the fees, etc.-- But without any codes,.... with the 02 Reading properly at the ECU, .... With the few other things I would first check at the ECU checking out having checked out ok, .... With the timing set right and valve lash checking right on,..... WELL? At that first fairly in depth glance, I'd say "nothing wrong with this rig that we can tell without REALLY digging in with a scope and in to every connection and fuel pressure, etc." Even with another Guru, 30 Years of working for Toyota, Lexus and privately, said pretty much the same thing after seeing it for an hour or so with me there, going over everything I'd done, for him..... "Dang, .... You've checked everything I would have, save the tail pipe readings",... Soooo, even with a mechanic, there's not always a quick answer, especially with OBD1, ..... I mean, it doesn't have a system that says, "Misfire in Cyl. 2" and no 'Variable timed Valves", etc., etc..... So it's a matter of either LUCK, or just doing a lengthy process of elimination.... Lengthy, that is, if, like in my case, it happens to be the LAST FRIGGEN THING YOU CHECK! hahaha.

Hopefully, you'll get an answer REALLY QUICK!
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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ehertz
Hey there vtyotapickup, try this. Drive the truck fast enough to gain enough speed to turn off the ignition and coast. Then turn the truck back on and see if your truck will drive normally for a short period of time. Mine does...just wondering if we have the same symptoms. Also feel free to use this post/thread to describe your issues and try to get an answer to resolve your issue...you already are getting advice from Chef and Thook, two of the best!
Thanks a lot hertz, guy I work with took it for a ride tonite, he's convinced its a clogged injector. Gonna try runnin some lucas through it tomorrow if I got time, don't know why it would only do it in some of the gears but hell I'll try it. Sorry yours ain't fixed yet, I'll try shuttin the truck off next time I can get near a long enough road. I'm from VT and moved to a big ass city, only live 1/2 to work so I don't usually drive far enough. When I do I'll get back to you and let you know, good luck with yours and thanks again to everyone here.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 12:46 AM
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well if your going to pull a injector, replace all the rubber.. there 3 peice that need replacing

i paid 3 bucks a peice X 4 each = pretty dam expensive.. for a little bag of rubber..

no leak in sight...
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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I did the injector thing...was not the injectors, but if you do decide to do them I highly recommend Mr. Injector. Heck of a nice guy (Bill) and he will do them all with new h-ware for $59 or $69 cant remember. He even gave me a before and after performance readout..plus 3 jollyranchers!!! Now thats service!!! I recommend doing the "shut off test" and see if you and I are on the same page though. Do that before you dive into the injectors. On a side note the reason I did the injectors is becasue the mechanic who now has my truck had another 22-re in the shop that did had the same symptoms of my truck. The problem truned out to be the injectors on that truck. After hearing that I sent mine off to Mr. Injector, but to no avail. I do now have the piece of mind of knowing they are good though! YOu can find Mr. Injector online by googling it. good luck and let me know about your progress.
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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when you pull your injector you will know if its bad it usually pretty evdent of failure..
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1990yota-pickup
when you pull your injector you will know if its bad it usually pretty evdent of failure..
And, how's that?
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:30 AM
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I am not so sure about a visual inspection.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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Vyota you might let us know in detail what the symptoms are and how it started etc. I didnt know that you were only having the problem in cetain gears. So the truck runs fine and doesnt show signs of problems until your in third? Or is it only at a certain RPM? I scrolled back through and didnt see if you mentioned any of this...if you already have sorry!
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ehertz
Vyota you might let us know in detail what the symptoms are and how it started etc. I didnt know that you were only having the problem in cetain gears. So the truck runs fine and doesnt show signs of problems until your in third? Or is it only at a certain RPM? I scrolled back through and didnt see if you mentioned any of this...if you already have sorry!
I think what's important to note about his symptoms is not the gear the vehicle's in, but that the problem arises when under load. So, RPM and/or when the motor is straining to produce power.

I read this article yesterday. It's a good read, if you're interested in have some time...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold_vacuum
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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hey hertz,
I threw a bottle of Lucas injector cleaner in it yesterday and went for about a 25 mile drive. After a while it started running better and wouldn't cut out. about 9 hours later coming home from work, did it again. Gonna take me a bit of time to even see exactly what its doing for sure.

Currently, the symptoms are...when under load especiallly going up hills the engine will start sputtering like its starving for fuel. It has NEVER done it in first gear, only 2nd and 3rd. Didn't do it in 4th, and truthfully I never got up to 5th, damn speed limits. It seems to vary what RPM it will start cutting out at, sometimes 2800 rpm, once 2500 rpm. Again I'm not tryin to be a pain in the ass by not having a better description for you, I've only driven 250 miles since I've owned the damn thing. I live 1/2 mile from work and rarely have time to go out for a drive, that and the roads in this state are so terrible I'm afraid the truck will break in half! I checked all the plug wires and vacuum lines and everything looks good. Sorry can't be more descriptive, again I get about 20 minutes of free time a day right now and generally it's spent figuring out what I have to do next, god I'll be glad to finally graduate!
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 10:20 AM
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Get a can of starter fluid and just start spraying over ANY vacuum connection, including the throttle body linkage to the plate, CSI, intake to head, plenum to intake, Modulator, etc. Could be a vacuum leak, for sure. Even if you can't 'see' anything wrong,....doesn't matter. Need something very combustible to verify, like starter fluid.

2,500 RPM is when the 02 Kicks in under load, and leans or enriches the fuel/air ratio. The knock sensor can cause issues as well, if it's pinging at certain RPM, causing it to retard the timing like crazy. TPS has caused issues with many guys rigs as well. Mine used to cut out UNTIL I hit 2,500 RPM, then would take off like a bat outta hell. It would do it in second gear at first, as well, then 3rd and 4th and 5th? Fine. Never really had the issues of being underpowered under load... except before I replaced my fuel filter. That was causing it to bog out when I'd try to open it up and needed more fuel.

Sorry you're dealing with this, VT, .... I can relate.
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