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Old Sep 30, 2019 | 01:30 PM
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Hilux vs Pickup vs 4Runner generations

So, I am trying to understand generations (to find out which frames are compatible). I managed to find info in a few places and have separated the data, so I can find the frames I need. Did I miss anything and am I correct in my assumption that the years online are telling me that some years both the old gen and new gen were released? If I buy an '88 pickup frame, is it possible I could get a gen 2 or 3?


Hilux: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Hilux
Pickup: http://blog.chiltondiymanuals.com/sh...oma-1970-2000/
4Runner: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 05:46 AM
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where are you located? if your in the states I don't know why your concerned with hilux frames. as far as the pickup and runners, they were the same chassis for a long time, but the rear suspension changed up to coils for the runner eventually.
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 07:57 AM
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Aren't they all different lengths? Wheelbase?
4Runner = 1 cab pickup?
Dual cabs are longer wheelbase, so I am thinking it won't fit.
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ev13wt
Aren't they all different lengths? Wheelbase?
4Runner = 1 cab pickup?
Dual cabs are longer wheelbase, so I am thinking it won't fit.
I guess it would depend on what gen pickup, because a double cab wasn't a thing until what, 96??
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 09:48 AM
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Sounds like you are thinking about swapping Shirley 's cab onto a new frame?

You need to match up the chassis numbers (RN#) off the build plate. This will ensure proper length rails and all the frame mounts are in the correct position.
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Old Oct 1, 2019 | 11:11 AM
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Since people go by different generation numbers depending on the market and what ever they want to call them, I have found it easier to just go by the year range of the body style in the market the truck is from. For example, if you live in the U.S.A., and have a 1988 pickup Truck, you would be looking in the body style of the 1984-1988 Trucks.

The frames of 2 Wheel Drive Trucks, 4 Wheel Drive Trucks, and 4Runners are all different from each other. The single cab Truck and 4Runner do have the same wheel base, but body mounting points are different.

I agree with Co_94_PU that the best way to find a frame that matches your Truck is to look at the Chassis Number. You can either find this on the build plate or on the frame itself by the right front tire.

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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Co_94_PU
Sounds like you are thinking about swapping Shirley 's cab onto a new frame?

You need to match up the chassis numbers (RN#) off the build plate. This will ensure proper length rails and all the frame mounts are in the correct position.
Actually I sold her and picked up a short cab 4x4 that needs a frame bad! Cool that someone recognized my post, though! I really wanted the 4x4 but the frame is surprisingly hard to find. I am wondering how hard it would be to put everything from a 91 into an 87. I keep finding gen 2 frames.
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Old Oct 4, 2019 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by old87yota
Since people go by different generation numbers depending on the market and what ever they want to call them, I have found it easier to just go by the year range of the body style in the market the truck is from. For example, if you live in the U.S.A., and have a 1988 pickup Truck, you would be looking in the body style of the 1984-1988 Trucks.

The frames of 2 Wheel Drive Trucks, 4 Wheel Drive Trucks, and 4Runners are all different from each other. The single cab Truck and 4Runner do have the same wheel base, but body mounting points are different.

I agree with Co_94_PU that the best way to find a frame that matches your Truck is to look at the Chassis Number. You can either find this on the build plate or on the frame itself by the right front tire.

I had a weird opportunity come up to get a Hilux but I dawdled and didn't get it. turns out it was a diesel. I would have loved that as a project in ANY condition.

Originally Posted by ev13wt
Aren't they all different lengths? Wheelbase?
4Runner = 1 cab pickup?
Dual cabs are longer wheelbase, so I am thinking it won't fit.
That's what I was hoping to find out but it looks like I have to basically stick with a pu frame. Too much work to change it.
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