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Old 12-07-2009, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DupermanDave View Post
Some of you guys are pretty daring. I don't think I'd ever go into deep snow. I'd be too affraid of getting stuck and being late to work. I might go have some fun tomorrow on my day off. Test out the toyota in deep deep snow.
its pretty tough to get these trucks stuck, but you can do it. Now if you really want to get through ANYTHING pick up some chains.
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Old 12-07-2009, 08:50 AM
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DAng, Wish I lived down there. that would make a fun birthday..day...

I used to always run 70-80 on the ice/snow on my way to school...that wasn't too smart though. Never had any bad incidents besides almost hitting a moose......or 6......
I saw a few dead people from moose encounters of the close kind in my 4 years with the Army in Alaska
some dead folks from driving too fast during the winter...
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:20 AM
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SR5, where is the info on that snow run?
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Old 12-07-2009, 10:46 AM
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ugghh..i wish i would have video taped me and my friends in the walmart parking lot last year after an ice storm hit eastern oklahoma..

it was THE best couple of weeks i have ever had..sooooo mucchh fun..we had the only trucks at our school that could get around in the snow (he drove a lifted '96 ford on 33's) and i had my '86 on the 31" swampers

you could stick it in 4wd...and do some AMAZING donuts on about 4in of ice

we even unloaded the 4wheelers in the middle of town at the walmart parking lot and starting ridin around on the ice...the police couldn't even get around on the ice (they didnt have trucks last year...now they do lol)..it was the funnest week of my life to say the least..
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:01 AM
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what are your guys opinions on driving with the hubs locked all the time, and throwing it into 4wd hi when needed? I know that the transfer case is not synchromeshed, so I should be moving less than 5mph (I'm usualy completely stopped, or rolling) when I engage 4wd, which is fine by me, BUT I don't want to have to run outside to lock my hubs..

I have manual hubs, and an open front diff..
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:25 AM
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locked rears are great for drifting.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by blue_CA_yota View Post
what are your guys opinions on driving with the hubs locked all the time, and throwing it into 4wd hi when needed? I know that the transfer case is not synchromeshed, so I should be moving less than 5mph (I'm usualy completely stopped, or rolling) when I engage 4wd, which is fine by me, BUT I don't want to have to run outside to lock my hubs..

I have manual hubs, and an open front diff..
driving with ur hubs locked isnt a big deal i wouldnt do it on a daily basis cuz it will put more miles on ur front differential gear but just lock them up on bad weather days and it should be fine just keep an eye on ur front diff fluid
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:38 AM
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heres my toys parking spot at the house last winter got stuck once when i hit the packed snow from the plow truck it high centered it on the skid plate! with my 31s and opens front and rear
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:59 AM
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I saw a few dead people from moose encounters of the close kind in my 4 years with the Army in Alaska
some dead folks from driving too fast during the winter...
Yeah I know. I was a stupid teenager I know better now! I drive like 40, 50 tops when theres snow and its dark when driving on the Parks hwy. Goes to show how much one can grow up when being out in the world for a year.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:10 PM
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I lived on a Class vi road in NH for 11 years, it was 1/4 mile and steep. Snow is funny sometimes it was easy, sometimes it was like DANG am I in 4x drive? I got stuck twice. Ice storm Fahgetah bowt it, i parked and walked.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by livetoride88 View Post
driving with ur hubs locked isnt a big deal i wouldnt do it on a daily basis cuz it will put more miles on ur front differential gear but just lock them up on bad weather days and it should be fine just keep an eye on ur front diff fluid
That was my plan, lock the hubs before I need them.. I'm working at a ski hill in a decent snow belt this winter, so it might get nasty real quick on me..
I changed my diff fluid last week in anticipation of lots of 4wd usage this winter..
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:19 PM
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driving with ur hubs locked isnt a big deal i wouldnt do it on a daily basis cuz it will put more miles on ur front differential gear but just lock them up on bad weather days and it should be fine just keep an eye on ur front diff fluid
Hm, I drive all winter with my hubs locked, never had a problem in 5 years and you can engage 4wd as long as as you are below 55mph.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by toyota4x4907 View Post
Hm, I drive all winter with my hubs locked, never had a problem in 5 years and you can engage 4wd as long as as you are below 55mph.
Do you have the ADD? Can I do that in my first gen non-ADD transfer case?
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by blue_CA_yota View Post
Do you have the ADD? Can I do that in my first gen non-ADD transfer case?
No. My '93 p/u was factory manual hubs and my '95 4runner is manual hubs converted. Oh and any '86+ t-case should be shift-on-the-fly...I think. I never had a problem with my '88 4runner

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Old 12-07-2009, 12:30 PM
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thanks for the clarification 4907..
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Old 12-07-2009, 01:02 PM
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I'm locked F/R with 32x11.50s, can handle the speed limit or more in any conditions.
Just gotta relearn how to drive with lockers.
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:18 PM
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I'm amazed no one is pointing out tires! With the right tires you can do 60 on ice and not have any worries, with the wrong tires 16 is going to be trouble!

Oh and I leave my hubs locked from about October to about March with no troubles.
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:30 PM
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60 on ice, Define ice..?
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Old 12-07-2009, 05:36 PM
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BFG A/T's for the win.
I'm running 33x 12.5'. Lovin' the traction on snowy roads / ice. Not so hot in the deep snow (mud tires would be great) but still tons better than my old longtrails.
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Teuf View Post
60 on ice, Define ice..?

these guys are just getting started at 60mph on the snow+ice
parts of WRC rally Finland reach speeds over 140 on the tundra
Yes its ALL about the tires.....

Running --> 31 10.50 BFG AT's
here in Ohio they go great in all but the VERY DEEP (over 16")
we have very wet lake effect snows and it wants to slow you down
was up in MN had about 20" of fresh powder, felt like 6" of ohio snow

Manual Locking Hubs + INCAB controlled ADD system
I leave them open till I see a need for them
Lock them manually and drive till i need 4X
Shift the T Case into 4x on the fly
Then Shift the ADD system ON - on the fly.
Works VERY WELL for me in my application
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