Notices
86-95 Trucks & 4Runners 2nd/3rd gen pickups, and 1st/2nd gen 4Runners with IFS

handling in the snow

Old 12-07-2009, 06:15 PM
  #41  
Registered User
 
Teuf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Dixon, Ca
Posts: 5,577
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Well you can go 60 on ice, I am from NH i know ice.
Teuf is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 06:17 PM
  #42  
Registered User
 
jpeters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I went out last weekend to the snow/ice and did alright. I have great tread left on my tires, but when you have ice 4x4 and good tires mean nothing. I was on maybe a 4 degree pitch and struggled. I had to back up and get speed. I want to be able to go at a slow pace and not worry about going into the bank. Chains are next!
jpeters is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 06:22 PM
  #43  
Registered User
 
Teuf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Dixon, Ca
Posts: 5,577
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Like i said, some snow you stick to, and others, its useless.
Teuf is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 08:42 PM
  #44  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Stuwy123's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 705
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This is what rally cars drive on the snow and ice.


Studded tires are illegal in lots of places. Anywhere that allows studded tires limits the size of the studs to pretty darn small.

Remember 4x4 gets you going fast on the snow and ice but it doesn't do jack to help stop.
Stuwy123 is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 09:06 PM
  #45  
Registered User
 
Matt90V6SR5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
60 on ice is just stupid,anyone can haula** on ice but what are you going to do when its time to stop/emergency stop?
Matt90V6SR5 is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 09:09 PM
  #46  
Registered User
 
Teuf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Dixon, Ca
Posts: 5,577
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I love the WWII clip of A Sherman tank in Pattons army just sliding on the ice, no control.
Teuf is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 09:50 PM
  #47  
Registered User
 
Matt90V6SR5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would be alright in a tank plowing into something after losing control on ice,but imagine sliding into a tree at 60mph in a 4Runner.
Matt90V6SR5 is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 09:58 PM
  #48  
Contributing Member
 
Tracey98277's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Matt90V6SR5 View Post
I would be alright in a tank plowing into something after losing control on ice,but imagine sliding into a tree at 60mph in a 4Runner.
total epic destruction.

last winter i drove the I5 from san diego to seattle. I tried to drive straight through but had to stop in cottage grove, oregon for the night due to all the wrecks. It was snowing at the top of the grapvine in LA, and everything north of shasta was dooms day kind of winter driving. so i get on the road the next morning from cottage grove and i got into eugene where i was driving and a semi about 200 yards up the freeway decides he needs to shift lanes right where a patch of 2" thick ice starts, he jack knifes his trailer doing 55 and lays it down right infront of me. fortunately i had some grip and managed to stop. but i sat there for 4 hours waiting for ODOT to get the trailer and truck up right.
Tracey98277 is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 10:26 PM
  #49  
Registered User
 
nv4runner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Missoula, MT
Posts: 406
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
We just got roughly a foot of snow. My brother and I took my 4runner up in the hills and had fun watching a jeep cherokee trying to do some of the trails my 4runner did. He blames the tires, but he also stayed on the low side of the trail and slid off a few times before taking a different one. In a few days it'll be hard packed-get-you-stuck snow and I'll have to find my chains if I want to go wheeling. Oh and I'm using General Grabber AT2 tires

Last edited by nv4runner; 12-09-2009 at 05:47 AM.
nv4runner is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 10:53 PM
  #50  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
rideexileex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle / Bozeman, MT
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I've been cruising back and forth from Seattle to Bozeman in some nasty blizzards and have hit 70+ on the straights no problem when the visibility was good, cruising through 4 inches or so of unplowed interstate. The worst spots were hitting the grooves when it would throw you back in... Let of the gas and I was fine. Lots of props to the BFG AT's... I dont think I would even want to try a different tire for the snow. I learned how to keep em in traction and how to slide em around. Very predictable tires
rideexileex is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 11:00 PM
  #51  
Contributing Member
 
Tracey98277's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Virginia Beach, VA
Posts: 332
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by rideexileex View Post
Lots of props to the BFG AT's... I dont think I would even want to try a different tire for the snow. I learned how to keep em in traction and how to slide em around. Very predictable tires
agreed, a 2wd 4runner drives great in snow when you're going in a straight line, but take a turn wrong... and it can be over, as with any car i guess. i want some of the BFG M/T KM2's those are a nice tire.
Tracey98277 is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 11:34 PM
  #52  
Registered User
 
Matt90V6SR5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I did well driving in white out conditions in colorado but even in 4WD I had some sliding problems on black ice.A little bit of not driving stupid goes a long way,lol.Slow is the way.
Matt90V6SR5 is offline  
Old 12-07-2009, 11:42 PM
  #53  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
rideexileex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Seattle / Bozeman, MT
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Tracey98277 View Post
i want some of the BFG M/T KM2's those are a nice tire.
Anyone have any direct experience between the KM/2's and the AT's with snow driving? I read that for specifically designed snow tires, they are engineered to actually pack snow into the treads of the tire. Believe it or not, that packed snow in the tire tread actually provides traction by 'gripping' the snow on the ground. With less individual treads on the KM/2's compared to the AT's, I figured that these might actually offer less traction on hard snow pack. Curious to hear what people have to say.
rideexileex is offline  
Old 12-08-2009, 08:05 AM
  #54  
Registered User
 
jpeters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It is funny when people think they can go anywhere with their mudders. In snow you dont want a really wide tire. You want as small of a footprint as you can. I love seeing guys with swampers in the ditch. Studs are great also, if your differential isnt permanently locked. Mine is and I'm sure that would rip the roads up if i had studs. But my mom, dad, and stepdad have studs on their 2006 runner, 2009 tundra, and my dads, 2wd, 82 longbed. The only thing I dont like about the snow is when some idiot drove up the hill before you and went in the ditch. Its sometimes hard to get out of the tire rut/ groove he made before you. The front tire can be cranked to the side but you still go where the groove was.t. I always try to make my own tracks.
jpeters is offline  
Old 12-08-2009, 08:41 AM
  #55  
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
muddpigg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: watertown, NY
Posts: 4,276
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
This topic is a frequent here. I think the most important thing is common sense. knowing you rig, realizing the many pitfalls on driving in hazardous conditions. When ppl do something stupid that hurts other ppl they're all sorry and didn't mean to do it. But never thought about the simple basics its not the fall that hurts its the sudden stop. So as I read these post "I do 60mph or 70mph or 80mph in snow and ice." Then notice in the signature lines blah blah blah truck/4rnr/car (RIP) or blah blah truck rolled and you actually give advice to others to drive that way. Stupid is as stupid does, please do the world a favor and wear a sign. Rant off.

I lock front hubs and shift on the fly to 4wd, rear locker and wide tires in 2wd like to try and push around with throttle. 4wd corrects this well. If its really icee well its a floating holiday. I know my driving abilities and my trucks, but there is alot of idiots on the road. For some reason the worse the conditions the faster someppl go.
muddpigg is offline  
Old 12-08-2009, 09:43 AM
  #56  
Registered User
 
Teuf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Dixon, Ca
Posts: 5,577
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
70 in snow, was there a fire to get too?
Teuf is offline  
Old 12-08-2009, 10:00 AM
  #57  
Registered User
iTrader: (6)
 
mightymouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: st. louis
Posts: 1,736
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Last year in st. louis we had some snow but nothing too deep. I drove around on my 31" ltb's and never felt as though i would get stuck. The ltb's saved my butt several times and a few other motorists as well. Whenever it snows deep ( 1-2 feet) in st. louis people tend to freek out and get stuck. It's fun to drive around with a tow strap and pull people out for a little cash. I never ask for money but 9 times out of tend people insist that i take it for my trouble. Little do they know it's no trouble at all and i was only out playing in the snow for poops and giggles.
mightymouse is offline  
Old 12-08-2009, 10:07 AM
  #58  
Registered User
 
jpeters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by mightymouse View Post
Last year in st. louis we had some snow but nothing too deep. I drove around on my 31" ltb's and never felt as though i would get stuck. The ltb's saved my butt several times and a few other motorists as well. Whenever it snows deep ( 1-2 feet) in st. louis people tend to freek out and get stuck. It's fun to drive around with a tow strap and pull people out for a little cash. I never ask for money but 9 times out of tend people insist that i take it for my trouble. Little do they know it's no trouble at all and i was only out playing in the snow for poops and giggles.
I used to have a tow strap on my hitch when i lived in maui. Never took it off when we went to the beach. We would get all the tourists trying to drive their rental jeeps out of the sand. They would be dug down to the frame. People are silly. I'd say 40 bucks or you can call the tow truck to get you out for 150. PLay time and make money!
jpeters is offline  
Old 12-08-2009, 10:10 AM
  #59  
Registered User
 
Teuf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Dixon, Ca
Posts: 5,577
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Now thats a Mensch.
Teuf is offline  
Old 12-08-2009, 02:37 PM
  #60  
Registered User
 
Matt90V6SR5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 652
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Jpeters I got a question for you,is it better to pull someone out with your front end or back end? Ive never pulled a stuck vehicle out before but it would be nice to know how to do it.
Matt90V6SR5 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: handling in the snow


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
 
  • Ask a Question
    Get answers from community experts
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: