Famous "high idle/surge" culprits!
#581
I'll have to take it to a shop. I'm going to go into a shop today and see what they say. I won't have the block with me though.
#582
Ted and Todd are both nice gentlemen. If you've not opened everything and gotten grease all over it or tried assembling everything yet (sorry....don't quite remember how far along you've gotten) I'm sure they'd do an exchange.
@HelliphinoN8......
He's/we've been down the headgasket road already with diagnosing this puppy. It's way early on in the thread, though.
@HelliphinoN8......
He's/we've been down the headgasket road already with diagnosing this puppy. It's way early on in the thread, though.
I think I just need to take some pics/and or go to the shop.
#584
Yes...it does. Took it to a machine shop today and he stuck his finger in the cylinder and immediately said "Yep, needs to be bored!" So its $100 for boring...and $25 for cleaning (hot tanked)
Also, he is charging me $60 more for putting new bushings in the pistons and he said that over time they wear out and they need to be bored so he said it needs to be done. And he's going to put the connecting rods on the new pistons with the new bushings. <- Is he just bs'ing me?
Cylinders are going to be .020 over now. One step closer
Also, he is charging me $60 more for putting new bushings in the pistons and he said that over time they wear out and they need to be bored so he said it needs to be done. And he's going to put the connecting rods on the new pistons with the new bushings. <- Is he just bs'ing me?
Cylinders are going to be .020 over now. One step closer
#587
Yes...it does. Took it to a machine shop today and he stuck his finger in the cylinder and immediately said "Yep, needs to be bored!" So its $100 for boring...and $25 for cleaning (hot tanked)
Also, he is charging me $60 more for putting new bushings in the pistons and he said that over time they wear out and they need to be bored so he said it needs to be done. And he's going to put the connecting rods on the new pistons with the new bushings. <- Is he just bs'ing me?
Cylinders are going to be .020 over now. One step closer
Also, he is charging me $60 more for putting new bushings in the pistons and he said that over time they wear out and they need to be bored so he said it needs to be done. And he's going to put the connecting rods on the new pistons with the new bushings. <- Is he just bs'ing me?
Cylinders are going to be .020 over now. One step closer

he's only working the block. deal with the pistons separately
if he's gonna bore all 4 .020 over, you will need new pistons, and consequently new wristpins and connecting rod bushings.
#590
yes he is b'sing you. 100 for the bore and 25 for the hot tank is all you need to pay him.
he's only working the block. deal with the pistons separately
if he's gonna bore all 4 .020 over, you will need new pistons, and consequently new wristpins and connecting rod bushings.
he's only working the block. deal with the pistons separately
if he's gonna bore all 4 .020 over, you will need new pistons, and consequently new wristpins and connecting rod bushings.
Is that a bad deal for all? Okay odd question...but will I need to hone the cylinders after I get it back from the machine shop?
#591
Okay...emailed engnbldr and they will do the exchange. They are only like 60 miles away from me....so I'm trying to figure out if I should just drive up there. (my motorcycle gets 60mpg!) and my brothers car usually gets around 40.
#595
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point blank:
the cylinders have been bored oversized... so appropriately sized pistons need to be supplied... and rings to match the bore and pistons are needed as well.
boring may add some cleareance since the boring is a 'rough' machining process and 'honing' is a 'fine' process. it is techinally possible for the honing process to add another .010 (ten thousands) to the bore diameter
there is some leeway between the piston size and the ring size
the cylinders have been bored oversized... so appropriately sized pistons need to be supplied... and rings to match the bore and pistons are needed as well.
boring may add some cleareance since the boring is a 'rough' machining process and 'honing' is a 'fine' process. it is techinally possible for the honing process to add another .010 (ten thousands) to the bore diameter
there is some leeway between the piston size and the ring size









