Did i mess my starter up
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Did i mess my starter up
Ok so i have a 94 pickup 5 speed with v6 and ive been fighting this no start problem for a while. So i decided to add a push button start.
The way i hooked it up is i attached a wire from + side of battery to push button then out of button straight to the starter. It worked one time and now it wont do nothing. I pulled wire off the starter and its getting 12.6 volts but will not turn over. did i mess it up?
The way i hooked it up is i attached a wire from + side of battery to push button then out of button straight to the starter. It worked one time and now it wont do nothing. I pulled wire off the starter and its getting 12.6 volts but will not turn over. did i mess it up?
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Which connection on the starter did you run the switched side of the wire to? The solenoid connection or the big main starter connection? Either way I'm betting you simply melted the switch. The solenoid draws a good amount of current, and the starter draws way more than any switch will take, at least any switch you'll find at an auto parts store.
I would suggest you find the source of the problem with the factory ignition system and repair it properly. Don't try to rig up some push button to work around it. It'll last longer, be safer, and won't look like some hackjob mechanic tried to "fix" it. Plus, nobody wants to help diagnose electrical problems if you have a bunch of wires running everywhere.
I would suggest you find the source of the problem with the factory ignition system and repair it properly. Don't try to rig up some push button to work around it. It'll last longer, be safer, and won't look like some hackjob mechanic tried to "fix" it. Plus, nobody wants to help diagnose electrical problems if you have a bunch of wires running everywhere.
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yeah i understand what you mean about the hack job and stuff. I connected to the little wire for the solenoid. I figured once it got 12volts the starter would turn over. and it did once but now it doesnt ill put all back like its suppose to but is there anything in the starter i could have messed up from doing this.
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Just how are you giving the starter 12V??
Just what kind of connections did you make Solder?? Crimp connections??
Perhaps one of those failed.
This has to have a back ground how did this all start??
Are we talking Auto or Manual Trans??
Perhaps one of the safety switches is not working.
Just what kind of connections did you make Solder?? Crimp connections??
Perhaps one of those failed.
This has to have a back ground how did this all start??
Are we talking Auto or Manual Trans??
Perhaps one of the safety switches is not working.
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...I would suggest you find the source of the problem with the factory ignition system and repair it properly. Don't try to rig up some push button to work around it. It'll last longer, be safer, and won't look like some hackjob mechanic tried to "fix" it. Plus, nobody wants to help diagnose electrical problems if you have a bunch of wires running everywhere.
Besides... A push button start? Reminds me of my friend's Prius, it's got a push-button start. LOL!
Just how are you giving the starter 12V??
Just what kind of connections did you make Solder?? Crimp connections??
Perhaps one of those failed.
This has to have a back ground how did this all start??
Are we talking Auto or Manual Trans??
Perhaps one of the safety switches is not working.
Just what kind of connections did you make Solder?? Crimp connections??
Perhaps one of those failed.
This has to have a back ground how did this all start??
Are we talking Auto or Manual Trans??
Perhaps one of the safety switches is not working.
Find the schematic and understand how cranking system works (see my sig) so you're not throwing the wrong parts, time and money at a problem.
BTW, starter solenoid coil current is around 12 Amps. What's your push button switch capacity?
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Ok. Before you get confused with all the advice on here...
Everyone is giving you goo advice, but before you start shotgunning the problem with this advice, think it through logically.
The absolute first thing to do is test the voltage at the solenoid (small wire) during crank. If no power is going to the solenoid, whacking the starter will just be hurting it. If there is power going to the solenoid, whack it good 2-3 times and it should turn over. If you break the housing you won't be able to core the starter!
If there is no power, report back and you'll get advice on here what to do next.
If there is power and whacking doesn't help, remove starter, get it bench tested, report back here.
Everyone is giving you goo advice, but before you start shotgunning the problem with this advice, think it through logically.
The absolute first thing to do is test the voltage at the solenoid (small wire) during crank. If no power is going to the solenoid, whacking the starter will just be hurting it. If there is power going to the solenoid, whack it good 2-3 times and it should turn over. If you break the housing you won't be able to core the starter!
If there is no power, report back and you'll get advice on here what to do next.
If there is power and whacking doesn't help, remove starter, get it bench tested, report back here.
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Also make sure the main wire to the starter (big cable direct from the battery) has good connections everywhere. It's not unusual for the connection to corrode at at the battery such that the large cable simply can't supply the amps necessary to turn the starter, even if the solenoid is working. Measure the voltage at the large terminal on the starter while an assistant is turning the key. If it drops much below 10 volts you have a connection problem.
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Also make sure the main wire to the starter (big cable direct from the battery) has good connections everywhere. It's not unusual for the connection to corrode at at the battery such that the large cable simply can't supply the amps necessary to turn the starter, even if the solenoid is working. Measure the voltage at the large terminal on the starter while an assistant is turning the key. If it drops much below 10 volts you have a connection problem.
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Ok. Before you get confused with all the advice on here...
Everyone is giving you goo advice, but before you start shotgunning the problem with this advice, think it through logically.
The absolute first thing to do is test the voltage at the solenoid (small wire) during crank. If no power is going to the solenoid, whacking the starter will just be hurting it. If there is power going to the solenoid, whack it good 2-3 times and it should turn over. If you break the housing you won't be able to core the starter!
If there is no power, report back and you'll get advice on here what to do next.
If there is power and whacking doesn't help, remove starter, get it bench tested, report back here.
Everyone is giving you goo advice, but before you start shotgunning the problem with this advice, think it through logically.
The absolute first thing to do is test the voltage at the solenoid (small wire) during crank. If no power is going to the solenoid, whacking the starter will just be hurting it. If there is power going to the solenoid, whack it good 2-3 times and it should turn over. If you break the housing you won't be able to core the starter!
If there is no power, report back and you'll get advice on here what to do next.
If there is power and whacking doesn't help, remove starter, get it bench tested, report back here.
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Thanks for all the help guys. I got the problem fixed so after i checked all my voltages after the truck would not start i realized it was the starter and i pulled it off and took it apart and found a wire where the solder broke loose so i re-soldered it now everything works good. So far. I am thinking that it was a loose connection this whole time and that is why my truck would not start every time. Thanks again for all the help, and i did leave the push button start off.
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