Can anyone identify this part?
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He started it, Swansen.
Right....just as I was feeling a tad guilty for falling asleep, too.
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Yeah, get some pics. The 4rnr's home and I can help route whatever you need today.

I'm not at the routing part, and I'm sure I'll get it right the first time. Some people have trouble with hoses, just like people have trouble with wiring. Have you seen how many vacuum lines are on the 3.0? I've never run across so many vacuum operated controls in my life.
Forget the initial query. I found out I was looking at the wrong set of hoses. But, I do have a pair of hoses that loop, with a vacuum pipe at the one end. Anyone know where this goes? I can take a pic if needed, but they are similar to the ones used on the idle up valve, maybe slightly longer.
Forget the initial query. I found out I was looking at the wrong set of hoses. But, I do have a pair of hoses that loop, with a vacuum pipe at the one end. Anyone know where this goes? I can take a pic if needed, but they are similar to the ones used on the idle up valve, maybe slightly longer.
<<(and, no comments from the peanut gallery....please)Yeah, get some pics. The 4rnr's home and I can help route whatever you need today.
#24
Can anyone take a pic of that location for me?
Edit: I found a pic, and I do have a broken air valve. The plastic ports are knocked right off.
Last edited by Cyberman; Jun 24, 2008 at 11:34 AM.
#27
It's definitely a broken valve on the pump. Dealership wants $97 for one new. I might go to the local yard and see if I can get just the valve (this yard is kinda pricy sometimes).
#30
Cyberman -
Did you ever get this figured out?
Your photo shows the AC idle up valve. When the AC is on, the valve is opened, and connects the two hoses together. The hoses are supposed to be connected to the air intake and to the plenum (see diagram below); when the valve opens it allows a little extra air into the plenum which raises the idle. Connecting the two ends together as shown doesn't do anything. If the port on the plenum where it is supposed to be connected is not capped (or filled with crud, same thing) then you're idling a little fast (or, put another way, when you plug that port your idle will drop, and you may need to adjust it.)
Same deal with the power steering pump, though it sounds like you're missing that one too. On the power steering pump, when the pump is really straining (like if you turn the wheel all the way to the lock and keep pushing), that valve opens up and raises the idle. Otherwise, you could kill the engine trying to get out of a tight parking space.
If these port are just left open when the hoses were pulled, you've already turned your idle up all the time. Not good in the days of $4.50/gal. Or, someone pulled the hoses and capped the ports. Or, pulled the hoses, and then turned the idle back down (but losing all "idle up" capability). Whatever: when you get this stuff hooked back up you'll need to check where the idle speed ends up.
But first: when you find the port on the plenum, put your finger on it while the engine is running. Does it suck? It's supposed to. Because of the EGR (and other things) the plenum tends to fill up with a startling amount of crud. I had all the vacuum lines hooked up, but never really noticed the idle-up. When I did a top-job (blown head gasket), I spent a lot of time cleaning out the plenum. Voila! Idle-up was now evident!
Good luck!
Did you ever get this figured out?
Your photo shows the AC idle up valve. When the AC is on, the valve is opened, and connects the two hoses together. The hoses are supposed to be connected to the air intake and to the plenum (see diagram below); when the valve opens it allows a little extra air into the plenum which raises the idle. Connecting the two ends together as shown doesn't do anything. If the port on the plenum where it is supposed to be connected is not capped (or filled with crud, same thing) then you're idling a little fast (or, put another way, when you plug that port your idle will drop, and you may need to adjust it.)
Same deal with the power steering pump, though it sounds like you're missing that one too. On the power steering pump, when the pump is really straining (like if you turn the wheel all the way to the lock and keep pushing), that valve opens up and raises the idle. Otherwise, you could kill the engine trying to get out of a tight parking space.
If these port are just left open when the hoses were pulled, you've already turned your idle up all the time. Not good in the days of $4.50/gal. Or, someone pulled the hoses and capped the ports. Or, pulled the hoses, and then turned the idle back down (but losing all "idle up" capability). Whatever: when you get this stuff hooked back up you'll need to check where the idle speed ends up.
But first: when you find the port on the plenum, put your finger on it while the engine is running. Does it suck? It's supposed to. Because of the EGR (and other things) the plenum tends to fill up with a startling amount of crud. I had all the vacuum lines hooked up, but never really noticed the idle-up. When I did a top-job (blown head gasket), I spent a lot of time cleaning out the plenum. Voila! Idle-up was now evident!
Good luck!
#32
#33
I'm not at the routing part, and I'm sure I'll get it right the first time. Some people have trouble with hoses, just like people have trouble with wiring. Have you seen how many vacuum lines are on the 3.0? I've never run across so many vacuum operated controls in my life.
Forget the initial query. I found out I was looking at the wrong set of hoses. But, I do have a pair of hoses that loop, with a vacuum pipe at the one end. Anyone know where this goes? I can take a pic if needed, but they are similar to the ones used on the idle up valve, maybe slightly longer.
Forget the initial query. I found out I was looking at the wrong set of hoses. But, I do have a pair of hoses that loop, with a vacuum pipe at the one end. Anyone know where this goes? I can take a pic if needed, but they are similar to the ones used on the idle up valve, maybe slightly longer.
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