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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 02:31 PM
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88 vs 89 22RE help

Hello all, first timer here. Picked up an 89 4runner with a 22RE production date 09/88. I am doing rebuild on it and LCE has 2 different rebuild kits. One for 85-88 and one for 89-95 22RE. They say its the one for 89-95 but when I called a few dealerships they say the rebuild kit for 85-88 is the one that comes up as correct based on my VIN.

Was there any difference between the 88 and 89 22RE? And when I look for parts in the future am I going based on the year of the block (88) or the year of the truck itself (89)? Also this is a California 4runner not sure if that matters.
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Old Nov 7, 2024 | 06:26 PM
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Engine mechanical parts should be substantially the same for either.
Some small changes might be oil pan gasketing versis FIPG oil pan sealing and other minor things..
88's have some electrical features unique to that production year.
Pistons, rings, rod and main bearings, cam, valves, and the like should be identical.
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Old Nov 8, 2024 | 08:33 AM
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I looked at LCE and they have the engine rebuild kit listed as 1985-95, which would be correct. Are you rebuilding something other than an engine?
Other than that, grab your model number and go to EPC-data.com and start learning how to look up the oem part numbers. Time well spent. Makes visiting the parts counter less time-consuming and frustrating. The diagrams are helpful, too.

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Old Nov 8, 2024 | 11:22 AM
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i would hold off on getting any rebuild kit, until you tear the engine down and have the block/head/crank/rods measured and evaluated at the machine shop.

for instance, if surfaces are warped and have to be machined, or the piston bore has to be opened up and you need different pistons/rings, the crank has to be turned and you need different thickness bearings, etc.

they'll typically want to rebuild the rods, aka check for wear on the small end(possibly rebush?), bore out the big end, etc... if you get your pistons/bearings from the machine shop that did the work, they are responsible for selling you parts that match the block/head/crank.

some people just want a cheap "rebuild", aka leave the block bolted into the truck and ball hone the piston bore, give it a valve job, etc... that could work if you've never overheated the engine, so the deck/head shouldn't be warped.
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Old Nov 20, 2024 | 06:10 PM
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i would hold off on getting any rebuild kit, until you tear the engine down and have the block/head/crank/rods measured and evaluated at the machine shop.

for instance, if surfaces are warped and have to be machined, or the piston bore has to be opened up and you need different pistons/rings, the crank has to be turned and you need different thickness bearings, etc.

they'll typically want to rebuild the rods, aka check for wear on the small end(possibly rebush?), bore out the big end, etc... if you get your pistons/bearings from the machine shop that did the work, they are responsible for selling you parts that match the block/head/crank.

some people just want a cheap "rebuild", aka leave the block bolted into the truck and ball hone the piston bore, give it a valve job, etc... that could work if you've never overheated the engine, so the deck/head shouldn't be warped.

The short block and head are back from the machine shop already just needed to verify that kit but i went with what toyota dealers are saying is correct for my VIN, thanks!
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Old Nov 20, 2024 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimkola
I looked at LCE and they have the engine rebuild kit listed as 1985-95, which would be correct. Are you rebuilding something other than an engine?
Other than that, grab your model number and go to EPC-data.com and start learning how to look up the oem part numbers. Time well spent. Makes visiting the parts counter less time-consuming and frustrating. The diagrams are helpful, too.
this is the one listed on their site i was referencing, it says 89-95

https://www.lceperformance.com/22R-2...-p/1018052.htm
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Old Nov 21, 2024 | 06:18 AM
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The only gaskets I see that are different from an earlier year is the throttle body gasket and the ones for the air tube. Everything else looks to be the same
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Old Nov 21, 2024 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by slim702
The short block and head are back from the machine shop already just needed to verify that kit but i went with what toyota dealers are saying is correct for my VIN, thanks!
no, that's not all that you needed to do.

but since you aren't listening, i'm not going to explain it further, good luck with your build.
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Old Nov 21, 2024 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by osv
no, that's not all that you needed to do.

but since you aren't listening, i'm not going to explain it further, good luck with your build.
The machine shop did everything you mentioned when they rebuilt it. Don’t all good machine shops do that or just mine?
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Old Nov 21, 2024 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimkola
The only gaskets I see that are different from an earlier year is the throttle body gasket and the ones for the air tube. Everything else looks to be the same
thanks! Appreciate you taking the time looking at that
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