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Old Oct 22, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by 1985runner
Does anyone know if its possible to use the Jeep TJ coils up front on a solid axle 4runner? I have a very clean 85 4runner and I want to keep it as stock as possible.
I'm also interested in the answer to this same question with respect to my own '85 T4R...
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Old Oct 23, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Got some better ones, Phil, lol...... LIL less blurry, lol.......

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They (12" x 125#) flex 'OK' for me.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Im looking to do the zuk mod to my 88 4runner but on my rig im missing the bottom rubber cone. Wheres the easiest place to get a set of those?
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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I think I saw you post this question in another ZUK thread didn't I?

They are hard to find and expensive if ordered form dealer I think.

Best bet is to either:
1) hunt from a boneyard for some
2) order the custom ones from ZUK's - just PM him here on the board, I think he makes custom ones with metal instead of rubber for your springs to fit onto.
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 02:39 PM
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Ive been running for more than a year with the rubber stop missing on one side. I have never had a problem, I drive offroad daily and haul more than pretty much anyone on here. I used the 12*150 springs
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Old Jan 3, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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T F E.....how do the springs stay put then? Photo?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 09:24 PM
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Yeah you did, and thanks! I've been looking even been to a few junkyards and haven't had any luck yet. Finally getting around to having some money around to get stuff done.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:18 AM
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For the ones that have done this... I've tried searching and can't find information on the shocks... did most of you stay on stock height shocks or had to get longer ones? Or by raising its actually moving it back to what stock height is supposed to be?..... Looking to do this soon. My bumpstops have about an inch of clearance. Sorry if this is over thinking things....
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:29 AM
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no change in shock size....although you may need new ones just because.

here is our thread https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...r-turn-251897/
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by porcelain
For the ones that have done this... I've tried searching and can't find information on the shocks... did most of you stay on stock height shocks or had to get longer ones? Or by raising its actually moving it back to what stock height is supposed to be?..... Looking to do this soon. My bumpstops have about an inch of clearance. Sorry if this is over thinking things....
I think it depends on what springs you are using & the amount of lift.

On my completely stock 4 Runner, I used TJ springs in the rear & BJ spacers in the front with no torsion bar adjustment. It resulted in a 1.5" lift and is completely level. With a 1.5" lift, I had to stay with stock rear shocks to prevent them from bottoming out under maximum compression. You could go with a longer shock in the rear but it would require a longer bump stop or shocks with a built in bump stop. I believe Deotsch (www.doetsch-shocks.com/) has shocks available with internal bump stops.

Good luck,
Ken

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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 92 TOY
no change in shock size....although you may need new ones just because.

here is our thread https://www.yotatech.com/forums/f116...r-turn-251897/
Really??

I had a 4 inch block lift that I replaced with this mod so I effectively gained about four inches over stock once I ditched the blocks. Now, I am assuming that the pro comp shocks that came with my kit were longer than stock...is that not true?
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FJXX
I think it depends on what springs you are using & the amount of lift.

On my completely stock 4 Runner, I used TJ springs in the rear & BJ spacers in the front with no torsion bar adjustment. It resulted in a 1.5" lift and is completely level. With a 1.5" lift, I had to stay with stock shocks to prevent the rear shocks from bottoming out under maximum compression. You could go with a longer shock in the rear but it would require a longer bump stop or shocks with a built in bump stop. I believe Deotsch (www.doetsch-shocks.com/) has shocks available with internal bump stops.

Good luck,
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Thanks for your help! So assuming i'm completely stock.... I should be ok with getting 1.5" bj spacers up front and doing the zuk mod in the back with the TJ springs and be ok with stock shocks all around?(they're in good shape)
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Philbert
Really??

I had a 4 inch block lift that I replaced with this mod so I effectively gained about four inches over stock once I ditched the blocks. Now, I am assuming that the pro comp shocks that came with my kit were longer than stock...is that not true?

all i can say is that when we did the NO-CUT ZUK MOD on Joe's 4runner. it basically moved it (the rear) back to where it should be, and based upon the fact that new shocks were placed before we bought it, no new shocks were necessary. and if you are returning your vehicle back to stock height, i can't imagine why new shocks would be needed except to replace abused ones.

as far as the additional question about BJ spacers....can't help on that one.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by porcelain
Thanks for your help! So assuming i'm completely stock.... I should be ok with getting 1.5" bj spacers up front and doing the zuk mod in the back with the TJ springs and be ok with stock shocks all around?(they're in good shape)
That should be the case. You do have more weight up front than me since you have the V6, so you may have to adjust your torsion bars, but that's easy. Make sure you get new nuts from Toyota for them if you do.

You'll want to do your research on putting in the spacers as it's more involved. I thought it was easy, but I took my time & had other vehicles to drive. You will also need to get a front end alignment from a shop who knows what they're doing after putting in the BJ spacers & the torsion lift (if needed).

If you don't have the TJ springs, I sourced mine from a local Jeep 4x4 shop for $20.

You're going to love how it rides & the additional payload capacity.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 08:15 AM
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That should be the case. You do have more weight up front than me since you have the V6, so you may have to adjust your torsion bars, but that's easy. Make sure you get new nuts from Toyota for them if you do.

You'll want to do your research on putting in the spacers as it's more involved. I thought it was easy, but I took my time & had other vehicles to drive. You will also need to get a front end alignment from a shop who knows what they're doing after putting in the BJ spacers & the torsion lift (if needed).

If you don't have the TJ springs, I sourced mine from a local Jeep 4x4 shop for $20.

You're going to love how it rides & the additional payload capacity.
Don't have them yet... unfortunately I don't have many 4x4 shops in south florida. I found some on ebay for like 40 bucks each. Did you use a bottle jack also ... I don't have one so I might have to pick one of those up too.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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Did you use a bottle jack also ... I don't have one so I might have to pick one of those up too.
No bottle jack. I removed the shocks, put one side at full droop and used a spring compressor from an auto parts store. Easy and it's almost like it was meant to be there.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 01:16 PM
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Thanks for your help... I'm going to do the ZUK mod first with the TJ springs and wait to see how that rides and then go from there... But seems like it would be a good idea to get slightly longer shocks for proper travel when I decide to get the BJ spacers. Wish I knew what shocks from other make/models would work assuming after all was said and done I had a 1.5-2.5 lift. At least in the meantime some inexpensive rock auto shocks that are longer than stock would work before I can afford(maybe next summer) to get something nicer.
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by porcelain
Thanks for your help... I'm going to do the ZUK mod first with the TJ springs and wait to see how that rides and then go from there... But seems like it would be a good idea to get slightly longer shocks for proper travel when I decide to get the BJ spacers. Wish I knew what shocks from other make/models would work assuming after all was said and done I had a 1.5-2.5 lift. At least in the meantime some inexpensive rock auto shocks that are longer than stock would work before I can afford(maybe next summer) to get something nicer.
Glad to help.

That's basically what I did. Be careful @ only 1.5" of lift & longer shocks. The extra droop would be nice but if you run into a situation where you bottom out those rear shocks at high speeds, you could potentially risk getting your vehicle out of control. The situation would have be extreme but it is a risk. Imagine bending a shock in this situation & it no longer articulates @ highway speeds. Yikes!

I have longer shocks sitting in the garage ready to go on but stuck with the stock size just because of this issue. However, if I were to do it again, I would have bought the Deotsch shocks and be running them now.

Ken
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by FJXX
Glad to help.

That's basically what I did. Be careful @ only 1.5" of lift & longer shocks. The extra droop would be nice but if you run into a situation where you bottom out those rear shocks at high speeds, you could potentially risk getting your vehicle out of control. The situation would have be extreme but it is a risk. Imagine bending a shock in this situation & it no longer articulates @ highway speeds. Yikes!

I have longer shocks sitting in the garage ready to go on but stuck with the stock size just because of this issue. However, if I were to do it again, I would have bought the Deotsch shocks and be running them now.

Ken
I'll keep that in mind.(scary to think about it) Perhaps get longer ones for up front only with the spacers and leave the rear ones alone unless I go bigger than say 2 inches or so.

In theory,to avoid thatscary situation, I could measure the distance(rear) from the mounting points of the shock minus the gap between the bumpstop and as long as I dont go with a shock that has a "compressed" length bigger than that I should be fine right?

It would seem that shorter is better than longer in this case... Does that seem logical? I would obviously not want 1 inch of travel before reaching the fully expanded length either....
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Old Aug 15, 2012 | 02:15 PM
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I'll keep that in mind.(scary to think about it) Perhaps get longer ones for up front only with the spacers and leave the rear ones alone unless I go bigger than say 2 inches or so.

In theory,to avoid thatscary situation, I could measure the distance(rear) from the mounting points of the shock minus the gap between the bumpstop and as long as I dont go with a shock that has a "compressed" length bigger than that I should be fine right?

It would seem that shorter is better than longer in this case... Does that seem logical? I would obviously not want 1 inch of travel before reaching the fully expanded length either....
Reaching full shock extention isn't problematic. One of the rare cases when shorter is better.
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