brake upgrade finished.... now strange problem
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brake upgrade finished.... now strange problem
Finished putting v6 calipers, rotors, all new rear brake parts, and a 1 inch bore master. Now the pedal will stay hard while the truck is off or running while still, but if you drive down the road for a very small bit the pedal gets soft and takes a pump or 2 and is fine but losses pressure again. I have bled these things 3 times and no air to be found. Brake booster? Or is there a little stubborn air bubble left in the mix
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Finished putting v6 calipers, rotors, all new rear brake parts, and a 1 inch bore master. Now the pedal will stay hard while the truck is off or running while still, but if you drive down the road for a very small bit the pedal gets soft and takes a pump or 2 and is fine but losses pressure again. I have bled these things 3 times and no air to be found. Brake booster? Or is there a little stubborn air bubble left in the mix
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Had no idea you could bleed that thing.... will try it tomorrow.
Will also try pressure bleeding.
The MC is from the Marlin Crawler Kit which I assume is a FJ60 MC. If the above 2 actions dont fix it then I will get an upgraded booster next.
Thanks guys
Will also try pressure bleeding.
The MC is from the Marlin Crawler Kit which I assume is a FJ60 MC. If the above 2 actions dont fix it then I will get an upgraded booster next.
Thanks guys
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Best way to keep air put of your system are vacuum line caps on your brake lines if you remove something.
You've simply got air in your system from not bleeding everything. Did you bench bleed the new MC?
Dual diaphragm is a good upgrade but that's not your issue.
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You've simply got air in your system from not bleeding everything. Did you bench bleed the new MC?
Dual diaphragm is a good upgrade but that's not your issue.
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Here's another thought - did you leave your bearing preload too loose? With the tire off the ground, grab the wheel at 12 and 6 o'clock - is there a lot of wiggle? If the pedal feels good sitting still but needs to be pumped up after driving a bit, you might have "pad knock back." This happens on fixed calipers when the rotor slaps the pads as it turns and pushes the piston back in the bore so you have to pump the pedal to take up the slack again. -or- maybe there was some dirt or loose rust between the rotor and hub when you bolted it tight (is there any vibration when you brake?).
I know you're not driving an auto cross, but here's an article that explains knock back a bit better. I would get this on rare occasions in my 4runner, usually after bombing through some asphalt twisties in the desert where I wouldn't touch the brakes for awhile
I know you're not driving an auto cross, but here's an article that explains knock back a bit better. I would get this on rare occasions in my 4runner, usually after bombing through some asphalt twisties in the desert where I wouldn't touch the brakes for awhile
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X2 on what Corax said, although I had a slightly different problem. Make sure your rear brakes are properly adjusted all the way out. My rears don't self adjust very well for some reason and I've found my self thinking I need to bleed the brakes (having to pump a couple of times coming to a stop). Really it was having to move the rear shoes enough to start contacting the drums. Once properly adjusted brake pedal felt great and braking performance was much improved.
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Here's another thought - did you leave your bearing preload too loose? With the tire off the ground, grab the wheel at 12 and 6 o'clock - is there a lot of wiggle? If the pedal feels good sitting still but needs to be pumped up after driving a bit, you might have "pad knock back." This happens on fixed calipers when the rotor slaps the pads as it turns and pushes the piston back in the bore so you have to pump the pedal to take up the slack again. -or- maybe there was some dirt or loose rust between the rotor and hub when you bolted it tight (is there any vibration when you brake?).
I know you're not driving an auto cross, but here's an article that explains knock back a bit better. I would get this on rare occasions in my 4runner, usually after bombing through some asphalt twisties in the desert where I wouldn't touch the brakes for awhile
I know you're not driving an auto cross, but here's an article that explains knock back a bit better. I would get this on rare occasions in my 4runner, usually after bombing through some asphalt twisties in the desert where I wouldn't touch the brakes for awhile
After bleeding the system 6 times, I read this. I have a ton of play on both sides. Now I have to muster up the patience to take everything apart again. Speaking of which do you guys have and tricks on how to remove the cone washers on the hub assembly other than beating it with a hammer? Thanks
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