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Dec 20, 2012 | 10:33 AM

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Oh, and I think with that wattage, I'd need to upgrade my headlight harness anyway, correct? The ones I am getting with the housings are 60/55W.

Dec 20, 2012 | 10:41 AM

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KDO - looks like you went 500K? This product you linked:
http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/DD...rcycle-HID-Kit

Seems like it's a standalone HID with projector set up but in the form of a single H4 bulb? If so, how does that work in the housings we're discussing, which have a light dissipator that doesn't allow the bulb to shine straight out of the housing? I guess I'm just not understanding it - I want maximum (legal and non annoying) output and illumination with my Hella housings I just bought.

It's just a standard bi-xenon HID kit...no projector. They will work in the Hella housings but will still be annoying to oncoming traffic regardless of color temperature.

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Oh, and I think with that wattage, I'd need to upgrade my headlight harness anyway, correct? The ones I am getting with the housings are 60/55W.

Correct...do not run those on your stock wiring harness. And yes, they burn out quickly.

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I have the same hellas. They are very nice and bright especially with these bulbs >> http://www.amazon.com/HELLA-H8314001...=pd_sim_auto_5

So the guy talking crap about the cheap 'you get what you pay for' Indian Autopal headlights buys cheap Indian Hella bulbs?

Dec 20, 2012 | 11:13 AM

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Made in India by hella, not an indian company. Meaning the factory is owned by hella. I also installed a high current wiring harness with those bulbs.

Dec 21, 2012 | 07:27 AM

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Made in India by hella, not an indian company. Meaning the factory is owned by hella.

Both are ISO 9001 manufacturers. You're missing the point.

Dec 21, 2012 | 07:40 AM

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Ok, then the point I mean is this:

German engineered vs. indian engineered and designed.

Dec 21, 2012 | 08:06 AM

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Thanks G, but these appear to be higher wattage than what I got with the housings - and are "off road only use":

Hella halogen bulb part # H83140011 is an H4 12V 130/90W off-road only headlight bulb designed to work with both high and low beam lights. This bulb has a 40 hour average life and produces a cooler, whiter light. They provide increased visibility and less eye fatigue for drivers.

What's the "40 hour average life"? That sounds pretty darn short if it means what I think it means??

I ran the 90/130 w hella bulbs in my 84 for @ least 3 years, but that was 15-18 years ago. I had no problem with the factory wiring. I swapped the housings and bulbs to my 97 Taco and immediately had to rewire the headlight harness.

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Oh, and I think with that wattage, I'd need to upgrade my headlight harness anyway, correct? The ones I am getting with the housings are 60/55W.

I am currently running 55/100 w bulbs in my 81 with out issue. I figure the higher watt high beams are OK since you dim your lights for oncoming traffic...

Roger Brown aka 4crawler off road sells an excellent harness upgrade.

Dec 21, 2012 | 09:20 AM

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Ok, then the point I mean is this:

German engineered vs. indian engineered and designed.

Autopal is an Indian company but their products are not Indian engineered lol...nevermind, just, nevermind.

Dec 21, 2012 | 10:52 AM

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Autopal is an Indian company but their products are not Indian engineered lol...nevermind, just, nevermind.

Heck hundreds of Indian engineers contribute to this, and people don't seem to have a problem with it- LOL!

So far, I have seen no objective evidence/reason why I should not go with the less expensive Autopals, plus: I would only be paying for the housing, meaning I can put the rest of the money that Santa's giving me into better street-legal bulbs. So what do you guys think... Silverstars? But before that, Gotta upgrade wiring first

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Dec 21, 2012 | 10:59 AM

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Wow you could have spent $10 more and got the real deal >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s01_i01 They even come with new bulbs installed.

Dec 21, 2012 | 12:59 PM

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Wow you could have spent $10 more and got the real deal >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s01_i01 They even come with new bulbs installed.

My face is red from face-palming.

As stated on the last page, that price is for one housing. $45 PER Hella vs $43 for TWO Autopals.

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Dec 21, 2012 | 01:06 PM

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With bulbs. You buy cheap you buy twice.

Dec 21, 2012 | 01:10 PM

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So what do you guys think... Silverstars? But before that, Gotta upgrade wiring first

The Osram Night Breaker Plus and Philips Xtreme-Vision get good reviews, as do the Silverstars for the most part (short life complaints). I'm still using the cheap 55W/100W bulbs that came with my Autopals and have no complaints.

Dec 21, 2012 | 01:25 PM

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My face is red from face-palming.

As stated on the last page, that price is for one housing. $45 PER Hella vs $43 for TWO Autopals.

Amen! LOL!

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Thank you, BMcEL. AutoPal upgrade to follow my wiring upgrade. (Keeping switched ground from dimmer-combo to control relay that will carry load current to headlights. Will post details on my build list.)

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Dec 21, 2012 | 01:27 PM

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I said earlier I bought my Hellas a while ago. That turns out to be about the time my truck was made, 1980.
I've had em in my P/U for about 8 years, Jeep for 10, wife's MG Midget for 2, 74 Chevy van for 8.
In the time they have been in the Toy I haven't had any wire overheating but the Jeep light switch did. I may be wrong but each headlight has it's own fuse on my 80 yota, so they don't overload the circuit.
The Autopals may be fine, I just know 30 years (ok 28) of use on & off road is a lot to expect from a pair of lights. But by the year it make them pretty cheap. I checked 4Wheel Drive Hardware's catalog, they sell the Hellas for $39 each with bulbs.
I tried to find some cheap Halogen bulbs for the Toy and couldn't stand the light pattern so I took the ones from the Jeep. That's about a objective as I can be.
I got the Toyota to use temporarily til I fixed the Jeep. Haven't run the Jeep for 5 years now.
Also from what I've heard