flatyota

Alrighty after looking at some of the builds on the site I have noticed that some of you do not have this installed on the axle anymore. Do I really need it?

dropzone

iTrader: (6)

None of my SA toyotas over the years have had it. Some guys have bad death wobble with out it...
I think Roger aka 4crawler has something on his website about it here:
http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/index.shtml

or try the google for toyota websites in my sig...it hits over 80 toyota websites for info

muddpigg

iTrader: (1)

You'll have to change the push pull steering to high steer.

4Crawler

iTrader: (3)

The torque rod is typically required for stock steering, as it keeps the axle from rolling forward under hard braking and preventing the resultant jerk in the steering. Also helps to protect the somewhat fragile steering j-arm as it is in parallel with the draglink. As noted, if you switch to crossover steering, it gets tossed in the dumpster as it is no longer needed for either function.

Etype R

I had to install one on my truck when it still had the stock steering. The previous owner removed it after lifting the truck. I got one made for a 3" lift from a friend, really helped under braking. I gave it back to him after doing the cross over steering.

desertcamper67

I used to use one with a drop and a heim joint on one end.
On this truck, I bent the bracket on the housing so I took the bar off. Its been off since 2005.

flatyota

ah makes sense ya I still have the good ol push and pul for now so I will leave it on until I got cross over. Also does that free up any articulation?

89silverpu

Yes, taking that torque arm or whatever its called off, and getting longer shocks will increase travel greatly! My buddy took the torque rod arm off and shocks off and I think his droop increased like 6 inches...then again it's not his daily driver he just uses it for fun

Etype R

I would not want to drive without it using the stock steering, the brake steer was not something I enjoyed.

xjdubber

Are these the same as on YJ's where they run paralell with the the steering? what about running it inline with the frame?

flatyota

The reason they dont run it inine with the axle, is because they didnt design it to stop axle and body trak but to stop the front axle from wrapping when you are steering. The steering setup that comes factory on these trucks uses a push and pull movement while doing this it is actually trying to wrap the axle back and forth, and it is exagerated when you brake causing brake steer.

xjdubber

Gotcha!

Never heard of somebody calling that axle wrap.

desertcamper67

You don't even need this to run parallel with the steering unless you are going with a coil sprung and linked front suspension. Not necessary with leaf springs although some old jeeps used them with leaf springs.

flatyota

Ya I have seen newer f450s running them as well i guess its to stiffen them up.