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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Last edited by fillsrunner4; 07-03-2008 at 02:08 PM. |
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Ok some updated pics and upgrades ive done to make this 4runner a true offroad machine.
Since the Motor weighs in a bit more with the 3.4 and my 4runner isnt light I added some more strength in the front by adding an upper truss and i also bought some nuckle gussests from trail gear that i will add as soon as i buy some 30 spline Longs Once i do this i will also probably switch out my Air Locker from the back and put it in the front and weld the rear. This will save me more in the end buy not having to buy another locker plus give me the selectability in the front which would be nice for turning ![]() Since i trussed the front i also decided to add some more strenth in the rear by trussing it aswell. In this pic you can also see how the new gas tank fits between the frame rails. Its a ford 19gallon tank with box i made for it for protection. Since its a plastic tank it needed to be strapped down. Its all made out of 1/8" steel exept for the mounts which i believe i made out of 3/16" plate. The tank sits directly above the axle so i need to fab up some new shock mounts. Ill post them as soon as i get them in. ![]() One thing about the rear truss is that the breather line is located on the driverside outer tubing so i added a breather in place of the sensor plug on my v6 diff. I bought a new freeze plug drilled it out and welded a hose line to it and will run a new breather line from that Heres some pics on the tank box and mounting for it ![]() Test Fitting. ![]() I reused my stock toyota fuel pump by modding the fords sending unit a bit to make mine work with it. This took a bit to rewire aswell but it was easy. Ive yet to figure out if the fuel gauge will work with the fords style floaty so far no luck so i guess for now ill definelty need to carry spare fuel at the trails. I may go with an aftermarket gauge or look back at the wiring of it and see if i can figure it out ![]() Also the ford tank has a hole on the top perfect for the toyotas rollover valve the goes to the charcoal canister ![]() Youll have to cut out a few crossmembers to put a tank like this in. Luckily i converted to springs before this step so on this day cutting was minimal. Since i cut the main crossmember in the back I needed to add one somewere else in order to keep my frame stong so added a new one to the very rear of the vehicles frame rail and out of the way of my new tank. Sorry i dont have a pic of it at this moment ![]() In this pic you can see 3 bolts used. The two outer are smaller 2"length and the middle is a 5" long bolt so if i want to lower the tank to work on the fuel pump i can without dropping the whole tank making life much easier if it went out ![]() You can see it fits pretty good in there ![]() The whole idea about moving the gas tank to the rear like this was to add ground clearence in the middle of the truck. Before the tank hung down about 5" or so and was an easy target to get stuck on out on the trail. So i did some research and found the ford 19 gallon tank fits perfect in the back of 4runners with leafs. I was originaly going to but a fuel cell in the back of my 4runner but i like to carry lots of gear in it too so this gave me the ability to do so. Lots of cutting and welding is involved to do this but i think its a great way to gain some cleaence and hell i think it looks pretty sick ![]() Ill add some more pics of the motor rebuild, drivetrain Flatbelly, and other misc mods ive done to turn this thing into a rockcrawling machine. So until then ive got some to do haha
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Great looking truck. I like that gas tank mod.
![]() Would be nice to have some extra capacity as well as ground clearance. I may have to look into something like that once I get mine running again.
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Ya it adds alot to the clearence and looks pretty cool under there. Now after my flatbelly you can look under the frame and all you see is drivelines. Its real cool. Ill post pics of it soon and how i did it all. I still need to figure out my 3.4 problem aswell and get it running. Ive got a shop down in Redmond that im gonna tow it to. Theres a huge Yota guy there that i go talk to a few times a week and have wheeled with a few times. There gonna let me use there hella$$$ scan tool to see if i cant pin point my issues. Im thinking MAF and hopping thats all it is but ill see. im out of town this weekend and its gonna be raining for days so time is limited to try and figure it out until next week
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Last edited by fillsrunner4; 12-13-2007 at 12:08 PM. |
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looks good. can't wait to see some underbelly pictures. nice work.
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Looks AMAZING man! Great work!
Question about the fuel tank. What model ford did it come out of? Also, aside from the sending unit, was everything else just bolt and go? All the fuel lines, and return and presssurized EFI crap? Again, GREAT looking truck.
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I have been thinking about going with the ford tank in the back, but keeping the stock tank for a dual tank setup for long drives. Are you just using the stock filler location?
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ill find all the specs on the gas tank on exactly which one it was. It was an earlier ford f150 tank. I originaly bought one and the hole for the sending unit was way to small to fit my fuel pump into. Again ill find what exact years work best for it. As for lines i ran all new ones when i did my 3.4 swap (same tube size which was bought at summit racing)all are in about the same stock location but longer becuase the sending unbit sits in the very back of the vehicle. I used the stock rollover valve(pressurizing unit) and it fits perfect in the top of the tank(hole was existing for a similar ford piece). I then took its cap trimmed the edges to make a better seal. then used 4 small screws and some gasket sealer to seal it off nice. (Edit) The tank is an 1985-1996 ford Pickups 19 gallon with rear tank. Runs on froogle for about 100-200 mines made of a plastic material. Also one more note I took the wiring harness and cut it to reuse the toyota plug for the pump. and it will take some rewiring of the ford sending unit to make it work but its real easy to figure out
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Last edited by fillsrunner4; 12-14-2007 at 04:02 PM. |
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As for underbelly pics ill post them shortly also ill include a pic of the sending unit and lines from were they sit in the truck
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more |
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Second, do you have any issues with filling from the stock filler place, or are you just moving it to have less tube underneath and make it look cleaner? Thanks, and again, great build.
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And its no problem at all. The tank skid from frame side to side is 33" wide at the top and 32" wide at the bottom the skid it 5 1/4" tall the tank inside the skid sits aobut 10" tall and still has plenty of room above it(maybe 1 1/2" in the back of the truck and farther forward becomes more room because the tank is slopped like that). The sides of the skid measure 26" at the top and 25 at the bottom and as far as where the skid sits in the frame rails its 7 1/2" forward of the farthest park of the frame rails. Let me know if you need anymore details on it and ill try and get them for you.
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Last edited by fillsrunner4; 12-14-2007 at 04:17 PM. |
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If you look to the very back of the frame youll see the new crossmember made to replace the cut out pieces that would have interfered with the tank.Its a rectangle piece of tubing i believe i used 1/8" think and as far as dimensions it fit into the open c-channel. Its ~41x3x1" and welded tot the very rear of the frame rails Edit more pics ![]()
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Last edited by fillsrunner4; 12-14-2007 at 04:56 PM. |
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Ok so since i am using the stock R150F tanny i wanted to keep the chain driven case instead of buying two gear driven cases. The chain is weaker (although it can withstand v8 power so ill try it for now
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Last edited by fillsrunner4; 12-14-2007 at 10:30 PM. |
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i like the idea a lot!! cant wait to see how it turns out working for you. what have you decided to do for your rear shock mounts?
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Ill be posting mor pics of the crossmember and more soon as i have the time to fill out a post on them (i cant tonight but will see about tomorrow) I know you want to see those pics haha Ive also got to finish the tunnel im building but its been crappy outside so when i get the chance with that ill update pics on that aswell.As for rear shocks Im gonna mount them on the inner side of the axle and make a mount in front of the new tank. Ive yet to finish the mount but im gonna mount them kinda like / \ but not so steep of angles like i had before. The shocks will also lean forward a bit but thats ok. Ive got 5150's in front and 5125's for the rear both 12"
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Awesome man, thanks for the tank dimensions. I'll have to check that out on mine.
I'm also REALLY glad you posted the pics of your flat belly set up. I had considered going flat with mine, but now that I see that you need to cut out THAT much to actually get it flat, even with the R10, I'm not going to do it. I'll just rotate, but not lift. Thank you again!
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My only concerns are that a tall 4runner and heavy top plus added weight a bit higher after may be a bit much. I do have a very wide stance compared to what i had with my 35's so im not actualy too concerned with it. I plan to maybe remove a leaf from the front and back and add a bit longer shackle in the back also cut out the back window and fully cage it (in time of course haha) Lots of work is going into this project but in time it will be a machine out on the trails again and more. Feel free to ask questions and enjoy the thread ive got tons of pics to come and work to do on it
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more |
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This rig is awesome...
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Ok so after all the cutting and grinding to make the hole for my flatbelly ill have to cover it. Heres a few pics of the tunnel im building for it. The sides will be covered with sheet most likely all removable for easy tranny access. Youll notice i welded to the body and toyota uses a three layer sound deadning hard rubber type material that is a pain to try and grind off to reach the bare metal. It will just melt and stick to everything plus reek. I found that grabbing it with pliers and twisting it a bit and also using a seal scrapper and hammer works quit nicely to get under it and then it cracks right off.
![]() In order to use my stock shifter i had to dogleg it some. I cut out a section of the shifter and rewelded it in with a dogleg. It clears in all gears perfectly. In the pic above you can see it would have interfered with the dash had i kept it stock. I also added a Hurst shift nob too it haha im thinking about painting it too ![]() I may use a piece of plexi to cover the top in the back so that passangers can look at the driveshaft haha ![]() Tunnels still got some work to do like alot of things, but ill keep updating as quickly as i can
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Thank you i appreciate the complements greatly
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more |
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Tunnel looks awesome! Are you concerned about body flex being an issue with that much floor removed, or does it feel pretty solid? Hard to tell if it would make any difference from the pics
I'm assuming you're lifting the engine to match. Obviously you've got the 3.4, but I gotta ask, how much is going to come out of the hood? Its funny, i know a guy who's got a Drivetrain lift, and he covered the hole with a hood scoop. Looks really nice. One time this jerkoff asked him if his hood scoop was functional, in a really sarcastic tone. He replied, "you bet. Can't close the hood without it." Made my whole week right there. Sorry for the diatribe, but yeah, interested in both cuts out of the hood, and a pic of the bell housing, and if you'll need to cut in order to do the clutch.
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As for body flexing im not to concered because im gonna beef it up more aspecialy when i add the new seat mounts. My buddy had an issue with his but he never added support for his. Ive got support via my new crossmeber behind my tranny xmember ill get a pic of for you. Also with just the suport in the pics its already pretty solid As for a cut for the clutch master i bought a bracket off a fellow member that includes both brake and clutch pedals. This bolts directly to the auto mounts and i drilled the holes using that as a guide for me. The clutch is bleed and ready to go and should work great. In order to do the auto to 5speed swap youll have to run the hard lines as well as the soft flex line and i did mine out of all new tubing that was stock size. Ill get some pics for you of most this stuff in one moment
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Yes i know its a huge hole
but hey it works for me ![]() Bondo works not the best but ill fix that later maybe not really a big deal. The sticker looks like its on fire just the way i like it haha![]() Hood now closes all the way no problem And yes its functional Heres a pic of the bellhousing for ya ![]() One more things about the engine being up this high is it gives more room behind to get all hoses and tranny bolts for that matter that much easier. I used stock 3.4 mounts so the motor isnt really raised except for tilting forward some
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94' toyota 4runner (Many a change!) purchased bone stock, NOW... SAS, 37x14" Iroks, Rear Leafs, 5.29's , Air locked front, Welded rear, 4.3L, Chevy V6 , 5spd swapped, dual T/C's MC10R10, flatbelly with custom skids, sliders, and so much more. Might as well start reading this if ya want know more Last edited by fillsrunner4; 12-14-2007 at 11:37 PM. |
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VERY nice...So, you can acutally get things in easier with everything being this high? That is AWESOME. Hmm. Gives me some more to think about. Thanks.
And the sticker looks great! I love it. Where did you have that made?
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I got the sticker made from http://www.decaldriveway.com/
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