Rebuild or 22R to 22RE swap?

GreeneHoosier · 08-16-2005, 12:08 PM

I just bought a One Owner, always garaged RUST FREE 1986 truck (4x4,22r) off of my wifes uncle. He had the top end rebuilt (valve job, HG and timing chain) about six months ago. Then a couple of weeks ago the motor locked up on him. He took the head off and all the pistons are OK (bearing most likely). He then sold me the truck. I also have a 1987 with a GREAT 22re that has been totaled. Should I do a down and dirty rebuild on the the 22R (bearings,rings,oil pump)that is already in the 86 or swap engines/wiring/tank-pump-lines with the 87? (hard swap???) Thanks for any info!

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kyle_22r · 08-16-2005, 01:20 PM

doesn't matter, they're both the same engine other than the manifolds. i'd rebuilt it just to know exactly what's inside of it

celica · 08-16-2005, 02:31 PM

If you do the swap you need to careful of all the senors & distributor. The distributors are different between the two. Also the 22r doesn't have the location for the knock sensor. Other than that it isn't too bad

kyle_22r · 08-16-2005, 02:43 PM

nope, since we're talking about post-85 engines, the long blocks(everything from the valve cover to the oil pan, except manifold) are exactly the same.

you are right about the distributors, just swap yours in the other engine if you go that route.

celica · 08-16-2005, 04:04 PM

If his truck is an 86 shouldn't it be the 22re already. All the trucks in canada were re's after & including 85???

jimbo74 · 08-16-2005, 04:54 PM

not so... the 22r carbed engine was used in toyota trucks until around 92 i think

kyle_22r · 08-16-2005, 10:30 PM

in 4x4s in north america the last year of the 22R was '87, and '90 or '91 for the 2wd.

koyota93 · 08-17-2005, 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimabena74

not so... the 22r carbed engine was used in toyota trucks until around 92 i think

I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure the last year of the US 22r was 1989. Just my 2 cents.

GreeneHoosier · 08-17-2005, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celica

If you do the swap you need to careful of all the senors & distributor. The distributors are different between the two. Also the 22r doesn't have the location for the knock sensor. Other than that it isn't too bad

Thanks for the opinions. This part (above)will not matter as I would be swapping the entire 22re engine into the other and not just the efi parts. I am leaning towards doing the rebuild and leaving this truck all original. It is quite a piece of history. Unmodified from day one. I can always build the 22re for my 4-runner. THANKS!

celica · 08-17-2005, 07:01 AM

my 85 was a 22re with the solid from axle, was this unusual, to bad a drunk hit me and write it off.

GreeneHoosier · 08-17-2005, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celica

my 85 was a 22re with the solid from axle, was this unusual, to bad a drunk hit me and write it off.

Ohhh....That hurts just hearing about it. I hope the parts went to a worthwhile cause....

08-16-2005, 01:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
kyle_22r Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lacey, WA Posts: 3,992	doesn't matter, they're both the same engine other than the manifolds. i'd rebuilt it just to know exactly what's inside of it __________________ 1998 tacoma, 3RZ-FE, 5 speed, 30x9.5R15 M/Ts past toys: 1984 4x2 1979 4x4 1991 4x4

08-16-2005, 02:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
celica Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Posts: 1,773	If you do the swap you need to careful of all the senors & distributor. The distributors are different between the two. Also the 22r doesn't have the location for the knock sensor. Other than that it isn't too bad __________________ Matt 2003 4-Runner Limited - Couldn't stay away from the runner 2003 Sequoia Limited 1989 Supra Turbo 1992 4r, 5spd V6 Sold

08-16-2005, 02:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
kyle_22r Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lacey, WA Posts: 3,992	nope, since we're talking about post-85 engines, the long blocks(everything from the valve cover to the oil pan, except manifold) are exactly the same. you are right about the distributors, just swap yours in the other engine if you go that route. __________________ 1998 tacoma, 3RZ-FE, 5 speed, 30x9.5R15 M/Ts past toys: 1984 4x2 1979 4x4 1991 4x4

08-16-2005, 04:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
celica Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Posts: 1,773	If his truck is an 86 shouldn't it be the 22re already. All the trucks in canada were re's after & including 85??? __________________ Matt 2003 4-Runner Limited - Couldn't stay away from the runner 2003 Sequoia Limited 1989 Supra Turbo 1992 4r, 5spd V6 Sold

08-16-2005, 10:30 PM	#7 (permalink)
kyle_22r Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lacey, WA Posts: 3,992	in 4x4s in north america the last year of the 22R was '87, and '90 or '91 for the 2wd. __________________ 1998 tacoma, 3RZ-FE, 5 speed, 30x9.5R15 M/Ts past toys: 1984 4x2 1979 4x4 1991 4x4

08-16-2005, 04:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
jimbo74 Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Nor*Cal Posts: 6,582	not so... the 22r carbed engine was used in toyota trucks until around 92 i think

08-17-2005, 07:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
celica Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Calgary, AB Canada Posts: 1,773	my 85 was a 22re with the solid from axle, was this unusual, to bad a drunk hit me and write it off. __________________ Matt 2003 4-Runner Limited - Couldn't stay away from the runner 2003 Sequoia Limited 1989 Supra Turbo 1992 4r, 5spd V6 Sold

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