Trial Gear ifs eliminater kit S.A.S help 80s to 81 front solid axle

norcali707@gmail.com · 03-01-2009, 10:45 AM

I bought the trial gear ifs eliminater kit it says you have to use a 1981 and up front solid axle. Do you guys know what the difference is between 80 and 81? I have a friend who will give me a 1980 sold front axle but my kit says to use 81 and up.

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**waskillywabbit** · 03-01-2009, 11:07 AM

Main website page says 79-85 SFA.
Install instructions say 81 and up.

Only thing I know that is different is the axle gusseting. Never personally used anything but an 84/85 axle.

86Toyrunna · 03-01-2009, 03:32 PM

should just be the gusset.. u should be good to go

bigarms23 · 03-01-2009, 04:28 PM

i agree with above

norcali707@gmail.com · 03-01-2009, 07:11 PM

ok so the pumpkin would be in the middle and i cant use the upgrade armor the kit came with ?

**waskillywabbit** · 03-01-2009, 07:15 PM

No, the gusseting on the bottom of the earlier year model axles is shorter or there is none. The pumpkin is going to be on the passenger side. Diff armor should work. I don't know of anything that won't work with that axle with that kit.

dirtoyboy · 03-02-2009, 11:07 AM

Some people actually prefer the older style axles (79-81) with no gusset on the bottom...

There's about a quarter to half inch extra ground clearance under the driver side axle tube!

norcali707@gmail.com · 03-02-2009, 12:53 PM

OK well I found a 1985 solid front axle i think im just going to get that for $300 bucks is that a good deal ? its newer so i hope its in better condition. And wabfab I might buy some 5.29 gears from you guys do they hold up well ?

yotaofdoom11 · 03-03-2009, 12:11 AM

5.29 gears hold up great, my roomate has been running them on his SAS 4runner for the last 4 years with aussies and hasnt had a problem yet, at first the small pinion will through off but the strength is there

norcali707@gmail.com · 03-11-2009, 09:40 PM

sweet I might buy some. I have the axle all rebuilt and sanded just needs welded which I had to repair my welder because its been many years sense ive used it.

ScottyC · 03-14-2009, 07:41 AM

The 79-80 axles have a smaller hub assembly, lug nut base diameter, and rotor design than the 81-85s. So, the reason why TG say they won't work is because their new rotors won't work with the older hub assembly on the 79-80 axles. Lug nuts won't press into the back of the hub/rotor. Although, you could just swap in a later model hub assembly.

neoworm0 · 03-14-2009, 09:24 AM

I second what ScottyC has to say. If you found an 85 though you're good to go. I would say $300 is fair. I don't know about your neck of the woods but those axles are getting hard to find around here. Prices are going up.

netwt12 · 03-16-2009, 07:37 PM

the rotors for the 79 and 80 pickups mount with with 6 bolts not wheel studs and 2 bolts. 79 & 80 axles will need an 81 or so fj40 rotor to get a vented rotor. trail gear doesn't sell a 6 hole rotor.

camarorally68 · 04-29-2009, 08:54 PM

hey guys i got a question i have a 1998 toyota 4runner 2wd i have got some of my 4wd conversion parts but i was wondering these kits you can buy to convert you 4runner to sas. the ones form marlin and trail gear say there for a ---- to a 1995 would they work one my 98 or do i need to get it from somewhere else and if so where from.

03-01-2009, 11:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,546	Main website page says 79-85 SFA. Install instructions say 81 and up. Only thing I know that is different is the axle gusseting. Never personally used anything but an 84/85 axle. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

03-01-2009, 03:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
86Toyrunna Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: B-TOWN, ORYGUN Posts: 431	should just be the gusset.. u should be good to go __________________ current: 1986 4Runner, Rebuilt 22RE with engnbldr HP head, cam'd, battery/intake swap, SASed, 5.29s, detroit rear, 35in MTRs, trussed and armored axles, marlin HD clutch, soon to be dual cased, TG rear bumper, Best mod todate CHROME METAL SR5 DOOR HANDLES, thats whats up RIP: 1985 Standard Cab SR5 pickup, add-a-leafs and shackels, 33" BFGs, it died a horrible death (50mph roll over) DD: 2006 Scion Tc w/TRD Supercharge and TRD stainless cat-back exhaust

03-01-2009, 04:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigarms23 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: mountains of truckee ca Posts: 1,010	i agree with above __________________ 1988sr5 4.3v6 4runner with chevy axles 513 gears dual cases overall 300to1 ratio 36mtzs 5inch lift detroits 1972 stepside jimmy d44/d70 425hp 1995 green range rover

03-01-2009, 07:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
waskillywabbit Super Moderator-Sponsoring Member Staff Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 14,546	No, the gusseting on the bottom of the earlier year model axles is shorter or there is none. The pumpkin is going to be on the passenger side. Diff armor should work. I don't know of anything that won't work with that axle with that kit. __________________ WabFab Off-Road, LLC MySpace Twitter Facebook 7th Annual South East 4Runner Jamboree, 2010 The toughest part of a Jeep is the chick driving it. WabFab Off-Road 4th Anniversary Sale

03-14-2009, 07:41 AM	#11 (permalink)
ScottyC Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Windsor/Greeley, CO Posts: 1,179	The 79-80 axles have a smaller hub assembly, lug nut base diameter, and rotor design than the 81-85s. So, the reason why TG say they won't work is because their new rotors won't work with the older hub assembly on the 79-80 axles. Lug nuts won't press into the back of the hub/rotor. Although, you could just swap in a later model hub assembly. __________________ Scotty http://www.addictedoffroad.com/ 970-420-4198 Toyota Winch bumpers on SALE!

03-01-2009, 07:11 PM	#5 (permalink)
norcali707@gmail.com Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 12	ok so the pumpkin would be in the middle and i cant use the upgrade armor the kit came with ?

03-02-2009, 12:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
norcali707@gmail.com Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 12	OK well I found a 1985 solid front axle i think im just going to get that for $300 bucks is that a good deal ? its newer so i hope its in better condition. And wabfab I might buy some 5.29 gears from you guys do they hold up well ?

03-03-2009, 12:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
yotaofdoom11 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SLO Town Posts: 6	5.29 gears hold up great, my roomate has been running them on his SAS 4runner for the last 4 years with aussies and hasnt had a problem yet, at first the small pinion will through off but the strength is there

03-11-2009, 09:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
norcali707@gmail.com Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 12	sweet I might buy some. I have the axle all rebuilt and sanded just needs welded which I had to repair my welder because its been many years sense ive used it.

03-14-2009, 09:24 AM	#12 (permalink)
neoworm0 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North Vancouver, BC Posts: 604	I second what ScottyC has to say. If you found an 85 though you're good to go. I would say $300 is fair. I don't know about your neck of the woods but those axles are getting hard to find around here. Prices are going up. __________________ 1995 Toyota PU SR5. 2000 3.4l V6 and a few other mods. my album: http://www.yotatech.com/album.php?albumid=101 my SAS: http://picasaweb.google.com/areinhol...eat=directlink www.overlandcanada.ca www.alltracwagon.net

03-16-2009, 07:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
netwt12 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Auburn,Al Posts: 518	the rotors for the 79 and 80 pickups mount with with 6 bolts not wheel studs and 2 bolts. 79 & 80 axles will need an 81 or so fj40 rotor to get a vented rotor. trail gear doesn't sell a 6 hole rotor. __________________ 1985 X-cab pickup. stock 1988 Trail Truck. SAS, Dual Cases, FROR Twin stick, 30 Spline Longs & IFS Hub Gears, Exoed, Aluminum Trail-Ready Beadlocks, 37" Boggers, and Extreme Rock Rash. 2008 Camry LE.

04-29-2009, 08:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
camarorally68 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6	hey guys i got a question i have a 1998 toyota 4runner 2wd i have got some of my 4wd conversion parts but i was wondering these kits you can buy to convert you 4runner to sas. the ones form marlin and trail gear say there for a ---- to a 1995 would they work one my 98 or do i need to get it from somewhere else and if so where from.

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