LCE Header turning Brown???
02-11-2010, 05:59 PM
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I could ask for them to make a product they are willing to stand by.EB wouldnt tell me to send my timing chain back so he could take a link out of it.I understand they SALT THE ROAD in Mass.I SALT THE F'IN ROAD in Virginia.WTF does that have to do with anything.The warranty doesnt say "Not applicable if used in salty areas" does it?ITS COATED STAINLESS for Christsake.Shouldnt they replace the parts at their cost?Shouldnt they pay labor for the R&R.Shouldnt they care if a guy is out of use of his vehicle.They made a crappy product and should send another one out on their dime.He shouldnt have to pay to ship it back.Thats BS.Stop apologizing for their substandard product and policies.If thats LCE quality I will buy pacesetter anyday.I'll just throw it away when it rusts out.
Btw, show me ANY company that offers a labor warranty with their products. When you buy a lift kit break a spring, do they cover labor? No. When you buy a turbo from ATS do they warranty labor? No. Labor is simply NOT covered. They warrantied the header, and are rectifying the problem. Again, what more could you possibly ask from a company?
And salt has EVERYTHING to do with rust. Come over here where we do NOT salt the roads, and look at my header. Not an ounce of rust anywhere on it. And many members have posted time and again how happy they are with the quality and lasting condition of their header. Don't want a slip joint to leak? Weld it. That is just common sense.
Besides, we are merely assuming his truck is running in tip top shape. Excess heat will burn that coating right off of there. Ever taken a look at your exhaust manifold? Or anything that has massive heat applied to it?
Lets also not forget that stainless-steel is NOT rust PROOF. It CAN and WILL rust.
02-11-2010, 06:53 PM
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except his is WAAAAY cleaner then yours Logan. WAAAY cleaner.
02-11-2010, 07:21 PM
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Never said it was bad. Just sayin' 
02-12-2010, 07:39 AM
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ok so i have the pacesetter system and zach has the lce. i've had mine on for a few years and about 40k. i took mine out on the beach pretty much every day, drove it through salt water and never washed it, filled the bed up with dripping oyster cages( yeah i know my truck is completely rotted out )
he has never been on the beach, and regularly washes the undercarriage.
BUT my exhaust still didn't rust as fast as his. definitely not right for a ceramic coated exhaust, when mine was bare metal.
it still hasn't rotted out completely to this day. ( i think, i'm on the west coast now didn't bring that rust bucket with me )
that being said, i am kind of impressed with pacesetter. i've never had any problems with it and sounds pretty good too. nothing like the lce though. next truck will have a full lce system. unless my pacesetter system is worth salvaging, which it might be.
he has never been on the beach, and regularly washes the undercarriage.
BUT my exhaust still didn't rust as fast as his. definitely not right for a ceramic coated exhaust, when mine was bare metal.
it still hasn't rotted out completely to this day. ( i think, i'm on the west coast now didn't bring that rust bucket with me )
that being said, i am kind of impressed with pacesetter. i've never had any problems with it and sounds pretty good too. nothing like the lce though. next truck will have a full lce system. unless my pacesetter system is worth salvaging, which it might be.
02-12-2010, 02:13 PM
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02-12-2010, 03:52 PM
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After seeing lce's warranty,your lucky they did anything at all.90 days?I will go with pacesetter,better waranty,price,and from the looks of it,quality.I wasnt paying attention when I said not to weld your header.I didnt realize lce uses a three bolt flange.I thought they were like a downey slip connector,which I wouldnt weld.Come to think of it,pacesetter has a superior ball flange setup,so plus one for them.With the amount of stainless in exhaust sytems now a days, rustouts on factory stuff isnt so common.My wifes 10 year old van is on the same exhaust.BTW salt is inert until you add moisture.We only salt in Virginia when it gets icy,but when you get around NY,they salt everything.Brutal on cars.Anyway,for a list of companies that will pay labor,try TRW,Melling,Sealed Power,and any other one you can haul into court.I have had warranty claims paid for labor when parts were proven defective.Litigation may be required in some cases,but if thats what it takes...PS Tuef,you should be rusted up to the cylinder head by now
02-12-2010, 04:02 PM
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DANG!!!
I just read this thread. My LC header is doing the same thing. Mine is less than 2 years old and it now looks like a speckled dirty sheep.
I thought that was normal.. I guess not.
I will call them and keep you posted on what they say about this..
I just read this thread. My LC header is doing the same thing. Mine is less than 2 years old and it now looks like a speckled dirty sheep.
I thought that was normal.. I guess not.
I will call them and keep you posted on what they say about this..
03-04-2010, 07:11 PM
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I just wanted to update this with a couple of pictures from my experience.
New:
Couple of days after install:
4 months later:
I'm a little disappointed with the quality of the coating and the steel used. It must have been some cheap stainless steel for it to rust like that. I know this because my dad has bought countless stainless steel accessories for his 18 wheeler and years later they still shine like new.(ex. bumper, grill,air cleaners, mudflap weights, light bars, etc.)
New:
Couple of days after install:
4 months later:
I'm a little disappointed with the quality of the coating and the steel used. It must have been some cheap stainless steel for it to rust like that. I know this because my dad has bought countless stainless steel accessories for his 18 wheeler and years later they still shine like new.(ex. bumper, grill,air cleaners, mudflap weights, light bars, etc.)
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