What's the consensus on the new Rubicon Express "Builder Ball" joint?
#1
What's the consensus on the new Rubicon Express "Builder Ball" joint?
This one:

The hole accepts 3/4" hardware. They are using either this one or their 5/8" model with in their Tri-Link kits. Basically they can eliminate the trackbar (panhard) with this setup. This joint is mounted on top of the diff with two links meeting at it and then the lowers are typical links.
Whomever is considering a 3 link rear for their 4 Runner, this might be an interesting option.
The hole accepts 3/4" hardware. They are using either this one or their 5/8" model with in their Tri-Link kits. Basically they can eliminate the trackbar (panhard) with this setup. This joint is mounted on top of the diff with two links meeting at it and then the lowers are typical links.
Whomever is considering a 3 link rear for their 4 Runner, this might be an interesting option.
#6
Originally Posted by Cebby
These items aren't the ones Steve is using. He's using the RE Superflex joint. These are much much larger. These are roughly 3"+ in diameter.
Correct, I was just stating the smaller ones that Steve is using are very nice units.
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#8
Originally Posted by Napoleon047
why does everyone want to ditch their panhard?
do they just not understand the benefits of having a panhard or what?
do they just not understand the benefits of having a panhard or what?
There is one benefit to having a panhard - that's to locate the axle from side to side If there are more benefits, we're all ears. Many 3 and 4 link designs don't require a panhard because their design inherently keeps the axle located under the vehicle.
#9
other reasons would be:
panhard bar does not keep the axle perfectly centered through its full range of articulation. some have seen 1/2" movement to the passenger side with just a suspension lift. the tri-link cebby is refering to will take the place of the panhard, using the above joint ontop of the diff housing for lateral location of the axle. it would be stronger, maybe lighter, and for sure better (suspension geometry wise) than the stock panhard bar.
btw, looks like a quality piece, but i have no idea. looks nice though.
panhard bar does not keep the axle perfectly centered through its full range of articulation. some have seen 1/2" movement to the passenger side with just a suspension lift. the tri-link cebby is refering to will take the place of the panhard, using the above joint ontop of the diff housing for lateral location of the axle. it would be stronger, maybe lighter, and for sure better (suspension geometry wise) than the stock panhard bar.
btw, looks like a quality piece, but i have no idea. looks nice though.
Last edited by motoracer47; Mar 5, 2006 at 05:13 PM.
#10
Originally Posted by Cebby
Do you have any constructive feedback on this RE joint? That's the question.
There is one benefit to having a panhard - that's to locate the axle from side to side If there are more benefits, we're all ears. Many 3 and 4 link designs don't require a panhard because their design inherently keeps the axle located under the vehicle.
There is one benefit to having a panhard - that's to locate the axle from side to side If there are more benefits, we're all ears. Many 3 and 4 link designs don't require a panhard because their design inherently keeps the axle located under the vehicle.
as for the joint, i assume you are planning to use this joint for the center joint on the wishbone? if so, i would go for it over the standard RE joint. that single joint has to do a big job. it has to center the axle, and keep the axle from wrapping.
#11
Originally Posted by Napoleon047
as for the joint, i assume you are planning to use this joint for the center joint on the wishbone? if so, i would go for it over the standard RE joint. that single joint has to do a big job. it has to center the axle, and keep the axle from wrapping.
Even with this robust joint, there is still the gas tank to contend with.
#14
I don't think air shocks will work on our rigs. Too heavy, although I'd like to use them too for simplicity sake. Peter, please post the link to the panhard bar thread once you do it. Thanks,
Chris
Chris
#18
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...&cat=34&page=1
fox 2.5" shocks
double the load capacity of the 2.0" shocks
edit: i put the panhard thread in offroad tech
fox 2.5" shocks
double the load capacity of the 2.0" shocks
edit: i put the panhard thread in offroad tech
Last edited by Napoleon047; Mar 6, 2006 at 12:09 PM.


